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I used the CanOBD2 Code reader, erased the codes from our Mitsubishi Eclipse ( 2001), took it to the inspection and it didn't pass because of the codes not coming up on their equipment. My code reader said that it was code P0403, which I found out was the EGR Circuit malfunction. accpording to the on line sourses I checked it is supposed to be the EGR Solenoid. Are there more than one thing that may need to be replaced? Is it possible for us to replace it ourselves and have the car pass the emmisions? What do you suggest? What is the normal cost to have the problem resolved by someone besides us? I found the EGR Solenoid for sale on line for around $96.00, plus the round valve for around $ 39.00. Why do the places to repair this charge so much and why do they insist on charging anywhere between $70.. - $100.00 for a diagnostic test before they can tell you what parts you need? Does the Code Reader tell me the same thing? Is this another way to screw the people? I'm not rich!

Submitted: 20 days and 6 hours ago.
Category: Car
Value: $23
Status: CLOSED
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Optional Information

Year: 2001
Make: Mitsubishi
Model: Eclipse
Engine: 6 cyl. 3.0

Already Tried:
CanOBD2 Code Reader

Accepted Answer

You are correct about the solenoid, more often than not this code is set because the solenoid has failed internally, creating an open circuit. On occasion you can get sticking EGR valves that will result in this code, but the majority of the time it is the solenoid.

If you want to test it yourself, remove the solenoid and measure resistance across the two terminals, you should have 29-35 ohms. In all likelyhood, you will have infinite resistance, which would indicate a blown open circuit inside the solenoid.

The part comes with the modulator right next to it as a unit with the brass bracket it mounts on. It is easily replaced yourself, you only need to remove the electrical connector, vacuum hoses, and three 10mm bolts holding it to the manifold.

Normal cost to have this part replaced is 1/2 hour labor (typically $50 or so), simply because most shops have a half hour minimum labor charge,plus the cost of the part. In this case diagnosis labor would include part replacement because it is so simple.
You should be looking at about $160 or so to replace the part were you to take it to a dealership.

The valve, should you wish to replace it is held on by two 12 mm bolts and while a little more difficult to get to than the solenoid, is still not out of the realm of a do it yourselfer. II do not forsee this being a needed repair though, based on the only code you provided.

Regarding the 50-100$ diagnosis, while it varies by shop between the two prices, this is a perfectly acceptable charge for diag. It is asking for trouble to just give a customer an estimate on a repair without knowing for certain what the problem is. Even if you come in with a code for the check engine light, the shop you brought it to does not know where that number came from and if it is factual. Furthermore, the diagnostic equipment used by a professional is capable of telling you much more than just a number; perhaps you have a code XXX but using a complete scantool you can see that there are multiple other issues that occurred right before the code was set, that can indicate a completely different problem than simply naming the code and saying it needs XXX part.

There is a whole lot going on under the hood, and a simple code scanner while very helpful in most situations, can not always be substituted for thorough system analysis by a trained professional; there are many times a quick code scan does not lead to an open and shut case.

All that being said, the code you have is as I said before almost always just the solenoid, and is a open and shut case :)

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Expert: Doug C
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Answered: 11/2/2009

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16 years automotive and OTR repair including specialized training from Toyota and Mitsubishi

20 days and 5 hours ago.

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Your answer was just what I needed! Thanks a bunch! I'm just tired of getting screwed over by shops and especially dealers. They think that everyone is fair game. I cannot afford a big expense. I usually do the research myself. My husband doesn't do much in repairs on vehicles nor in the home. I do it all myself! I grew up around my father and brother, who were great mechanics, but are not able to help much now. I was taught from a very early age to do it myself and learn. I hate putting hard earned ( now retired ) money into something I can do myself. Many thanks again. I'll try it myself!

Posted by Doug C 20 days and 4 hours ago.

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You're welcome :)

It's tough that some dealers can give all dealers a bad reputation, but there are some bad ones out there.
Just remember for the most part, when you take your vehicle in anywhere they are going to pick over the car pretty carefully looking for work, this is how technicians get paid, by performing repairs... that doesn't mean all technicians are honest and will tell you only what you need however.
If you are certain on only wanting one thing done, make it 100% clear "I'm only here for this."
If you have any doubts about the shop(s) you are going to, there is usually a good reason; voice your concerns with the service director, and if they can not reassure you enough to feel better, find another shop!

Thanks for using JustAnswer!

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