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My father is almost 80 with a history of heart problems - triple bypass about 11 years ago. In the last 18months he has had problems keeping food down - gagging either during the meal or shortly after. About 4 months ago he was admitted to hospital with pleural effusion of the right lung. The fluid was found to be exudative but non malignant, so it was drained and he was sent home. Last week the same thing happened again, but this time on the left lung. CT scans / X rays showed nothing obvious and the fluid was exudative, but no malignancy. This time frusamide was used and he has been sent home again, with an appointment for 6 weeks time for a chest Xray. The doctors appear to be baffled as to the cause. Could it be linked to his vomiting after food in some way ? Could he be getting acid into his lungs or even food, causing the results seen ? If not any pointers please. NB he takes Lansoprazole already and has a hiatus hernia

Submitted: 20 days and 21 hours ago.
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Gender: Male
Age: 80

Posted by Lisa, MSN, FNP-BC, CCRN 20 days and 21 hours ago.

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Hello; Thank you for writing in today. I want to provide you with the best possible information, so I have a few questions. I hope you understand. Any other chronic illnesses? Does your father have any chronic inflammatory conditions, such as rheumatoid arthritis, or gastric issues? Has your father had a swallow evaluation or recent gastric scope? Please let me know. Lisa

20 days and 21 hours ago.

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No rheumatoid arthritis diagnosed. Takes Lansoprazole but I believe that was given to him for possible ulcers etc because of all his heart problems and related medications. He has had a gastric scope in the past with nothing untoward found

He is partially deaf in one ear and totally deaf in the other because of mastoids when he was very young, but often has problems hearing at all due to problems with his ears - something to do with his Eustachian tube ???

 

Posted by Lisa, MSN, FNP-BC, CCRN 20 days and 21 hours ago.

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Hello; Thank you for responding to the questions. At this point, your father's condition is a bit baffling. Generally, when a nonmalignant, exudative pleural effusion is found, there is usually an associated inflammatory condition, such as rheumatoid arthritis, infection, pulmonary embolism, or pancreatitis. However, sometimes, as in your father's case, a clear cause is not identifiable. Now, as for his gagging after meals and how it relates, there is no clear relationship. However, gagging can lead to aspiration. Aspiration generally manifests as pneumonia; however, it does cause inflammation of the lungs. Although this may not directly be related, if he does aspirate, this is likely not helping this issue. First of all, I would recommend talking with your father's provider about a possible swallow evaluation referral. This is a relatively simple procedure, and it can help determine if there are any swallow issues, such as aspiration. In addition, if not already done, I would recommend talking to your father's provider about a pulmonologist referral. A pulmonologist may want to check baseline lung functioning and possibly more testing. At this point, you may never have a clear understanding of why this is happening; however, a little further evaluation may get you closer. I know this doesn't provide a clear answer for why this is happening; however, I do hope this helps. If you have additional questions or concerns, please let me know. Lisa

20 days and 20 hours ago.

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So are you saying that the gagging could be causing him to aspirate food or acid into his lungs which is causing inflammation, hence the fluid and the test results?

If this could be the case is there any reason why it would be his right lung this time when it was his left last time ?

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Your father may not have a swallowing disorder. However, gagging can sometimes be a symptom of a swallowing disorder. Sometimes when a person has a swallowing disorder, they can aspirate into their lungs. This can cause inflammation. It usually presents as pneumonia. It is not generally associated with an exudative pleural effusion. Even if aspiration is not directly related to the exudative effusion and there is a separate underlying issue, aspiration may not be helping. I don't think that aspiration would fully explain why this is happening. I suspect they may never narrow down the issue. At this point, without an identifying cause, why this occurred on the right side versus the left side, as previously experienced, I really couldn't answer this. There just isn't enough information. A swallow eval and pulmonology referral would be reasonable next steps. Lisa

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