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Hello, I recently bought a 94 Maxim with a mercruiser alpha one stern drive and a 3.0L engine. The lower bellows is ripped. Is this bellows the return side for cooling and also exhaust (to the lower gear/spindle/prop unit) ? Any damage to anything with it being torn? I put the boat in for only about 10 minutes to warm it up, then pulled it out to winterize it. Then noticed the torn bellows. Also, putting a 5 gal container with antifreeze tubed to a set of ears, I opened the spiget to gravity feed to the ear while starting the engine. Assuming the thermostat was open...did I get antifreeze in both the manifold and the engine block? I opened the plug under the manifold afterwards and got the pink, but can I safely assume it went into the block? Used about 2-3 gallons. I cannot for the life of me find any plug on the engine block side to take out and check or drain. Can you tell me where to look for the engine drain plug? Thank you for any help to these questions. DC

Submitted: 28 days and 21 hours ago.
Category: Boat
Value: $28
Status: CLOSED
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Make (of engine): mercruiser
Model (of engine): MCM 3.0 LITRE/LX
Year: 1994
Horsepower: 135?

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It is a seawater (but in my case fresh) cooling system, not closed loop. I flushed antifreeze using a gravity feed container until I saw the pink coming out below..from the torn bellows. The engine was up to temp before I pulled it out and did the above. I drained a little from the manifold to verify it got the antifreeze, but cannot find a drain plug for the engine block itself. Just wondering if the thermostat would allow flow the the manifold but not into the engine? Or does it go into the engine first before the thermostat housing from the water pump?

Posted by Dominick 28 days and 21 hours ago.

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Thank you for the question XXXXXXXXX,

 

The lower bellows is (About 3 inches in diameter opposed to the U-joint bellows higher up and 6 inches around) is used for exhaust to exit the engine and be directed through the rive and out the propeller. Running the engine with a rip in "these" bellows will cause no harm. We do need to change the bellows at a early convienion. If the bellows rip loose and get jammed into the u-joint bellows while trimming down, this could cause the u-joint bellows to contact the u-joints and this will surely rip the u-joint bellows. If the u-joint bellows has a rip, this will need to be repaired without further use (Needs to stay dry in the u-joint bellows).

 

There is likely no "petcock" to drain this engine block. But there is a plug just in front of the starter on the starboard side of the engine, of course on the engine block.

 

The thermostat when closed will allow some passage of fluid, but likely not enough to sufficiently "Load" the water with antifreeze. The only sure way to know if the antifreeze made it into the block sufficiently is to take a sample out of the block and test it with a anti-freeze hydrometer. (These are available at all the auto parts stores).

 

I just pulled the parts diagram from Mercruiser for this engine and, for the life of me, cannot locate the rain plug to give you a diagram of it's location....I have not seen one without this drain plug or petcock. ..You have a LX model, so we need to look for a knock sensor in the location I indicated above or on the other side of the block tucked under the manifold. It will look like a large oil pressure sender, and this is screwed in the drain port. ( I believe there is a drain plug, we need to keep looking. )

 

 

 

28 days and 21 hours ago.

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Thank you.....I follow your answer. About the thermostat....since I fully warmed up the engine first, and promptly pulled it out of the water and did the antifreeze flush....would you say the thermostat was still open and allowed flow to the block? I will look again by the starter....I was mainly looking for the engine plug the same side as the manifold...I may have overlooked it on the starboard side. I will check both sides for the knock sensor screwed into the drain port. I do have a hydrometer. Please let me know about what you think regarding the thermostat being open and would it let sufficient flow go to the block if open while still warm. Please respond and don't worry....I will pay with this last answer. Thank you very much.

Posted by Dominick 28 days and 20 hours ago.

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No, not hardly....The thermostat under full power conditions is only "burping", new water into the engine block every few seconds. The water circulating pump is, well, circulating the water through the block and recycling the the same water. Other water is being directed to the exhaust manifold and to the exhaust gases all the time. When the engine gets to operating temperature, the thermostat opens, allowing water to exchange in the block, just a few seconds later the water in the block is cooled by this influx of new water and the thermostat closes. This keeps repeating with the thermostat opening and closing every few seconds when at high power settings. Much slower at a idle or low power settings.

 

I would believe that the anti-freeze is likely very week in the block, given the application indicated above.

28 days and 20 hours ago.

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Thank you again.....and sorry for this.....but.....how then do I get antifreeze into the block to winterize it from freezing and cracking? Just drain it at the plug you indicated and forget the antifreeze? Or pour it in at some hose or something? Sorry to keep asking but this is the real basis of my question.....how do I protect the block from freezing?

Posted by Dominick 28 days and 20 hours ago.

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Another expert added this while I was away (drain plug is a 1/8 pipe plug screwed into 1/4 adapter on the port side rear)...

 

One of two ways is acceptable at our shop;

 

First choice is to run the engine is anti-freeze solution for 15 minutes....This will require a large bath of solution to run the engine that long.

 

Second is to drain the engine first and then do as you indicated before. The block will fill quickly and all will be fine.

 

Its just the block being full to start that is giving us the issue, and the time it would take to achieve the 50% mix in the block area without taking any chances.

 

There is definitely a drain, we do need to find it.

 

Posted by Dominick 28 days and 20 hours ago.

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Wanted to add:

 

We can drain the block by removing the large water hose between the thermostat housing and the water circulating pump. Remove it on the circulating pump connection and all the water in the block will drain out........

28 days and 19 hours ago.

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Would it be sufficient to just drain it and thats it? If not, will I first need to run the engine to temp (in the lake is the only way I can do it), then pull it out, then drain, then fill as you have indicated? I can only bring it to temp by putting it in the water again.....no access to a garden hose with the ears to run it and bring it to temp. Damn I am sorry to keep sending replies with more questions.

28 days and 10 hours ago.

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Hello again Dominick, it was getting late last night....can you please answer my last question? Can I just drain it as you have told me how, and forget the antifreeze? Or if I should add the antifreeze after draining, can it be poured in thru the thermostat housing? I would rather skip the antifreeze if that is ok after draining.

Accepted Answer

Sure you can simply forget the anti-freeze, IF , we are sure there is no water in the engine....Actually this was done that way for many years.....

 

Given the total situation, remove the lower end of the water circulating pump hose and drain the block. Then reinstall and remove the thermostat end of the same hose. Use this hose as a funnel to fill the block with the anti-freeze mix.

 

This little extra effort not only gives us some more insurance of the goal, but also provides the engine with some corrosion protection while in storage....

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