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We have an outdoor pond and have just put finished winterizing it. We have a small bottom heater and two aerators. The gold fish were fine last winter with this system. We live in northern Alberta, and the pond gets iced over, but does not freeze through. This year, the fish are dying. They appear slimy and seem to have skin lesions. I can send a picture. I don't know if this pertains to the problem, but we have a lot of string algae.

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Posted by TROPICAL FISH AFICIONADO 30 days and 1 hours ago.

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Are you still feeding the fish and if so are you feeding the amount you would normally feed?

 

Have you recently added any new fish to the pond or done anything different aside from winterizing the pond?

 

Thank you for offering to send a picture but it's not necessary as the symptoms you described are quiet clear.

 

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30 days and 1 hours ago.

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No. we have finished feeding then for the year. Nothing is different except the algae.

Posted by TROPICAL FISH AFICIONADO 30 days ago.

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Hi again and please forgive my delay in responding as I was finishing up another question.

 

The symptoms you are describing, slimy and seem to have skin lesions, are an indication of a bacterial infection and possibly a parasite problem.

 

The algae in itself is not necessarily a sign of water quality problems but is more an indication of excess nutrients in the water caused by overfeeding, excess lighting/sun and decaying matter in a pond.

 

To put the algae under control an alage removing product can be added to the water.

These types of additives can be easily found at most pet stores.

 

As for treating the fish disease unfortunately you'll have to take the pond out of it's peaceful winterized state and take some steps.

 

The first thing to do is begin by changing 25% of the water in the pond. With the water change add some pond salt. Any brand will do just follow the directions on the product label for dosage instructions. Pond salt will help fight off the bacteria, any parasites that may be present and serves as a general tonic.

 

After the above has been done begin to treat with a medicine called TetraPond Pond Fish Treatment which I believe is sold under the name of Desafin in Canada.

The TetraPond Treatment is a wide spectrum medicine which treats a variety of fish diseases including bacteria and parasites.

 

As a precaution I'd also recommend that you have the water tested for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. Results should indicate ammonia and nitrites=-0- and nitrates 20ppm or lower. My reason for suggesting that the water be tested is that unfavorable water conditions are usually the cause of fish disease. Deviant results would indicate the need for a series of weekly 25% partial water changes until the water tests indicate all is normal.

 

Best wishes and please let me know if you have any questions.

 

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30 days ago.

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Will the salt have any ill effects on the plants? If I cannot obtain pond salt will kosher salt (as in pickling) work?

Posted by TROPICAL FISH AFICIONADO 30 days ago.

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I'm sorry I didn't realize you have plants in the pond.

 

Yes a full/normal dosage of pond salt will have an ill affect on the plants so usually what is done is 1/2 the amount of the recommended dosage is administered.

 

Yes Kosher salt is an acceptable as a substitute for pond salt as is any salt that does not contain iodine.

 

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30 days ago.

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How much salt per gallon of water should I use. Do I do this before after, or during the 25% water change? Our pond contains about 25 x 35 and about 2 1/2' deep.

Posted by TROPICAL FISH AFICIONADO 30 days ago.

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The best thing to do is follow the instructions on the salt's product label as each product has differing strengths. Most pond salt product will give a dosage amount for planted ponds and non-planted ponds. Between 2 different pond salt products I've seen such dosage variations from 1 1/4 cups per every 100 gallons of water to 1 cup per every 120 gallons of water hence it's best to follow the instructions for the particular product being used.

 

Add the salt after the 25% water change. If you decide that you'd like to continue using pond salt, which isn't a bad idea, you would then only add the amount of salt that corresponds with the amount of water being added. It's not necessary to add additional salt if compensating for evaporation as salt does not evaporate.

 

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30 days ago.

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Hi,

 

Would the figures you gave me apply to kosher salt and to the planted pond? We have approx. 10,000 gallons of water.

Posted by TROPICAL FISH AFICIONADO 29 days and 23 hours ago.

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If you've decided to use Kosher salt, which by the way is an economically sound decision, I would recommend using 1 cup per every 150 gallons of water. The plants should be safe at this dosage.

 

So for a pond your size, 10,000 gallons, you'd add about 66 cups of salt which equals about 14 1/2 pounds of salt.

 

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29 days and 23 hours ago.

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Thank you for your help. We will certainly accept your advice. Can I address future questions directly to you?

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You're most welcome and please don't forget to add the medicine along with the salt.

 

You most certainly can address all future fish/pond/aquarium questions directly to me.

 

My name is XXX. XXXX ask for me.

 

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