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ABS light stay on after starting

Submitted: 44 days and 20 hours ago.
Category: BMW
Value: $41
Status: AWAITING CUSTOMER ACTION
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Year: 2000
Make: BMW
Model: 318 auto

Already Tried:
replaced sensors, checked relays, replaced control module, re-set codes, also replaced shocks, axle bearings & overhauled diff,checked wiring behind glove box, and still the lights come on intermittantly and stay on for a short period or longer, often they stay on when the car is started and go off after a few minutes driving. Very often they will come on when the car is idling in park or at traffic lights. The car only has 100,000ks and this problem has been there since purchase at 18,000ks, so far no mechanic or BMW Dealer has been able fix the problem, only lighten my wallet!

Posted by Dan 44 days and 20 hours ago.

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DO you know the abs code or codes that are showing up? Thanks

44 days and 20 hours ago.

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Hi Dan, according to all the mechanics, NO codes show up at all.

44 days and 19 hours ago.

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Sorry Dan, according to all the mechanics, NO codes show up at all !!!!!

Posted by Dan 44 days and 19 hours ago.

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If the abs light goes on that means the abs module detected a problem and should set a code related to the problem.  You may need to have a mechanic keep a scantool connected to it and check for codes when the light goes on.  Without a code I'm really not sure where the best place to start would be so I'll opt-out incase another expert has seen this happen without throwing a code.  It sounds like you have pretty much replaced all of the abs related components and it could likely be a wiring problem. But someone else will respond automatically if they know the answer or can give you some good advice. Thanks

44 days and 19 hours ago.

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Thanks Dan, a Scantool has been connected and it has been thoroughly checked as you can see, all obvious replacements have occurred. I will await further feedback from your colleagues.

44 days and 17 hours ago.

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Hi Dan, has this been passed on to anyone else, as i've heard nothing since

Posted by Dan 44 days and 16 hours ago.

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Yes it is available for all of thebmw technicians to view but without a trouble code it is hard to say what the problem is "at least from my point of view". I'm sure someone will end up being able to help you but we all come on here at different times so it could be sometime tomorrow that someone will reply. Thanks for waiting.

Posted by BmwMasterTech 44 days and 8 hours ago.

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Hello XXXXX,

 

Please do not accept if you feel this is not helpful but I see no one has taken a shot here. My only thought was that maybe the problem is actually in the instrument cluster and not in the ABS system. It is the internal circuit that turns the light on by request of the ABS module. If there is a problem in the circuit that controls the ABS light it will come on even when no faults are present. Maybe this is actually a false warning and that is why no codes set. Just an idea. I can always opt out but I wanted you to know what I thought it might be.

44 days and 7 hours ago.

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Thank you if this is the answer how does one resolve the problem

43 days and 21 hours ago.

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Hi Bmw Master Tech if you are Online, as you can see from previous notes I have spent thousands on suggested fixes, to no avail! I'm grateful and curious about your suggestion but prior to accepting would like to ask you - how do I ascertain if this is the cause and how involved and costly is this diagnosis. Many thanks I await your reply.

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Hello XXXXX,

 

(Hello. You posted just as I was updating this. I hope I have explained well enough below to help you. I am in no way certain if this is the cause...but I have had a short be the cause for an ABS light to be on at one point many years ago. That is why this such an interesting but difficult problem.)

 

If it is the instrument cluster that has a problem internally in the circuit board it would mean an instument cluster replacement. It could also be a problem in the wiring circuit of the ABS control module and the instrument cluster. Although the short could be in the wiring harness. I have tried to find the exact wiring diagram but there are too many to choose from depending on the DME version and ASC version. If I had the vehicle in the shop and this was something that can be easily reproduced as you described at idle or at a start, and there were no fault to go by. I would want to run a new wiring harness in the circuit for the lamp from the ASC to the cluster and see if it still had the problem. If it the problem stops then it shows it is in the harness. If it continues and there are no faults and the ASC has been replaced already (as this module plays in the activation of the lamp) then it makes the cluster as a potential reason for the false light.

 

I might be able to find the correct wiring diagram if I knew the DME version and the ASC version.This is the choices I see.

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I am not positive if I am on the right track but since everything else was replaced it makes this a real possibility.

 

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Expert: BmwMasterTech
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Answered: 10/9/2009

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Level 1 BMW Master Certification, 9 Years Dealer experience, Team Leader, Shop Foreman

43 days and 20 hours ago.

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Thank you for your time and thoughts it's certainly worth a shot.

Posted by BmwMasterTech 43 days and 19 hours ago.

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Thank you for your accept XXXXX. I hope I have led you in the right direction with this problem. I wish I could take a look at it myself as this certainly sounds like a hands on type of problem to solve. I wish you a lot of luck!

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