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My 2001 BMW 525IT wagon heater system blow cold air only. No heat! How should I troubleshoot?

Submitted: 53 days and 7 hours ago.
Category: BMW
Value: $20
Status: AWAITING CUSTOMER ACTION
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Year: 2001
Make: BMW
Model: 525it
Engine: 6

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adjusting dashboard controls

Posted by BmwMasterTech 53 days and 7 hours ago.

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Hello,

 

The first thing to do is to inspect the engine for any possible leaks. If you do not see coolant leaking then open the resevoir cap and check the fluid level of the coolant. Most likely you will find that it is low. You will need to use blue coolant (ethyline glychol) that has been mixed to a 50/50 concentrations with water. There is a small plastic screw on the resevoir tank. Remove the screw and fill the resevoir slowly until it runs out of the plastic screw hole, then re-install the screw carefully as not to overtighten. Then run the vehicle with defrost on high and check for heat. Make sure the engine temp does not overheat. If it starts to, let it cool and then check the coolant level again and add more if it looks low in the same way and repeat untill you have heat. All the while checking for any signs of a leak.

 

Let me know how it goes and I will try to help you further. Please accept if this has been helpful. Thank you.

52 days and 17 hours ago.

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The coolant was very low, so I decided to replace the coolant becasue it hadn't been changed for years. I successfully removed the coolant from the radiator, but I cannot find the location to drain the block. Any advice?

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Hello XXXXXXXX,

 

The drain plug for the block is on the passenger side of the block and really only accessable from underneath the vehicle. I have a general picture of the area. If you would like, instead of accessing the drain on the block you could use a hose and run clean water through the engine and leave one hose disconnected to flush the block out. Then drain as much as you can and refill. The coolant mix should still be fine with the water in the block and it would be easier. But if you want to drain the block make sure if there is a copper 0 ring washer it will need to be replaced with the same size washer made of copper. It must fit the bolts diameter perfectly to prevent leaking.

 

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Note: M52 / S52 The water drain plug is located on the exhaust side between cylinders 4 and 5 in the engine block (as illustrated). M52TU / M54 The water drain plug is located on the exhaust side on cylinder 2 in the engine block.

 

Please let me know If I can help you further.

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Expert: BmwMasterTech
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Answered: 10/1/2009

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Level 1 BMW Master Certification, 9 Years Dealer experience, Team Leader, Shop Foreman

52 days and 3 hours ago.

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I decided that it was too difficult to remove the block drain becasue of its locationand drained the radiator and flushed it 5 times until it was clear. The drained fluids appeard to be rich in antifreeze so I thought I had also succeeded in flushing the block. I was mistaken. This morning I stared to refill the system. Surprizingly it only took 1/5th of a gallon of coolant (100% solution) and no water. I started the engine and rant it for an hour. The system heated up normally to the center mark on the temp gauge, the coolant expanded, and I removed coolant until the float was at the proper level. It appears that I was not able to remove the majority of the old solution. As this is my first time to change the antifreeze in the 5+ years I have owned it, am concerned about replacing it completely. I am also concerned about the small amount of fluid added, Any advice?

Posted by BmwMasterTech 51 days and 18 hours ago.

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Hello IRobot,

 

I can understand you concern. After you flushed with water did you drain the radiator again before adding fresh coolant?

51 days and 15 hours ago.

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yes, drained radiator, closed drain plug and started to put in antifreeze. Radiator only took about 1/4 - 1/3 of a gallon and was full. Started engine to see if it would open up system. Engine heated to normal temp (1/2 way on gauge), radiator fluid expanded a bit and verything was as normal. Ran engine for 1/2 hour with no change. Syphoned off some coolant to restore proper fullness at temp.

Posted by BmwMasterTech 51 days and 15 hours ago.

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Hello Irobot,

 

I have been trying to think of a way for you to get a better flush of the system. Unfortunately I think to truly get a good flush on one shot the block would have to be drained along with the resevoir tank and radiator. My only suggestion is to do a series of flushes. This would at least lead to better anti-freeze protection and also help clean out the system of the old fluid. It is not perfect but it might help in the long run. Some shops have a machine that hooks up to the coolant hoses and can then flush the entire system without having to even drain the coolant out as it captures it. To do it yourself though, you could do a series of radiator flushes until you reach the end of the gallon of antifreeze. I hope this helps you to decide on how to proceed. It is amazing how little a radiator actually holds.

51 days and 15 hours ago.

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I did drain after flushing. You are right that radiator does not hold much fluid. I plan to check into a professional flush cost. It may be on only way to really refresh the antifreeze. I suspect that a series of fllushes would improve the renewal, but it will be hard to figure out what the balance of water to antifreeze is unless I take back my 100% mix and exchange for 50/50 and can spend the hours needed. Thanks for your follow up. Ron

Posted by BmwMasterTech 51 days and 15 hours ago.

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That sounds like a good plan. It would most likely be fine by adding the 50/50 water to coolant mix. The only difference would be a slight temperature difference for the freezing point. You could also purchase a coolant tester that shows the temp protection level. This would help be a good guide of the mix status. The tool is not too expensive. But to really make sure it all is flushed, make sure the shop you are going to use has the machine to perform the flush from the hoses. This is the most complete type of flush you could do. Thank you Ron for your accept.

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