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My sister is the executor of my parents estate. She sold their house for 560k and distributed most of the profit to me and my siblings. I was under the impression that their estate was way under the limit for being taxed and that we would not have to pay taxes on what we got. My sister now says that the estate attorney said we will have to pay taxes on it since the estate didn't earn a profit in 2009. Can something like this be true?

Submitted: 56 days and 5 hours ago.
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Country/State/Province of question: utah

Posted by Merlo 56 days and 5 hours ago.

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Hello discodave,

What was the approximate total value of your parents estate?

What year did your parents pass away?

What was the value of the home sold on the day that your parents passed away?

56 days and 5 hours ago.

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My parents died in early 2008.

The house sold for I think 560,000. They didn't have much other savings so their estate was way under the 2 or 3 million that would trigger estate taxes.

My father died in feb. 2008 and my mother died in march 2008. Their house could of been worth more than 560k they died but not more than maybe 600k or more.

Posted by Merlo 56 days and 5 hours ago.

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Hello again discodave,

If they died in 2008 and their entire estate was less than $2 million, then no estate taxes would be due.

On the home itself, the beneficiaries receive a stepped up basis to the fair market value at the time of death. So whatever the fair market value was at that time becomes the heirs' new basis. If the home is then later sold for a higher price that your new basis, you would owe tax on any gain you had from the sale. Normally when a property is sold shortly after the death of a decedent, there is usually little or no gain, because the selling price is usually the same as or close to your stepped up basis. So if you had no gain from the sale of this home, then no tax would be due on the sale.

The estate does not owe a tax because it had no profits. This tax attorney may be charging you a fee for his services which he planned to take from estate profits. If there were no profits, then he may be coming directly to you to pay those fees. But there would be no actual estate tax due.

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Thank you discodave.

56 days and 5 hours ago.

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My parents home sold in 2009 and the price sold was less than the value it was when they died. So you think there is no legal way that we will have to pay taxes on the amount we received so for (65k for example) for the reason my sister said we would have to pay taxs for.

Posted by Merlo 56 days and 5 hours ago.

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Hello again discodave,

One more question please. Could you please tell me what state this home was located in?

56 days and 5 hours ago.

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virginia

I live in utah myself

Posted by Merlo 56 days and 5 hours ago.

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Thank you discodave for the clarification. I just wanted to be sure that state inheritance taxes were not an issue here, but there are no state inheritance taxes in VA.

As long as this home was sold for the same amount or less than the fair market value on the day you inherited the home, then you would owe no taxes here. If the estate itself had been valued at $2 million or more in total assets, then any excess assets would have been subject to estate taxes. Those estate taxes would have been paid by the estate itself, and then the remaining assets would have been distributed to the heirs with no further tax being due. Since you indicated the estate was below the $2 million value, then the only tax at all that would be due by the heirs is if they sold property which they inherited and made a gain on the sale from that property.

But when you inherit property, you automatically receive a stepped up basis, meaning your new basis becomes the FMV on the date of the decendent's death. This is true of all property including real estate and stocks. If your mother had owned shares of stock, your new basis in that stock would be the closing price on the day your mother died. Your basis would not revert back to what she originally paid for the stock. The same is true for the home. Your new basis is the FMV of that home on the day your mother passed away, and unless you sell that home for more than that amount, you have no taxable gain.


This attorney is likely assessing you fees for his services, but the estate itself is not subject to tax on this sale.

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Thank you dave.



56 days and 4 hours ago.

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can I print your reply?

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Hello again dave,

Yes, of course you may print this for your reference. If you have problems getting the page to print, just try highlighting the page with your mouse and then hit "print selected text" -- otherwise sometimes you just get a blank page.

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Thank you dave.

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