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1/1/09-10/30/09 - employee of a corporation 11/1/09-3/15/09 - will be self-employed doing contracting word at the corporation I will be leaving I understand I will have to pay quarterly taxes when I'm self-employed. How do I calculate how much quarterly taxes to pay?

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looking on various sites online, but they address questions for someone who was also self-employed in prior years

Posted by Merlo 57 days and 11 hours ago.

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Hello ween,

In order to pay your quarterly taxes, you will need to estimate how much taxable earnings you will have for the entire year, as your total household income is what ultimately determines the tax bracket you are in and the tax rate that you pay.

What you would need to do is estimate what your net income will be after deducting your expenses. Your net income after expenses is then subject to self employment taxes (SS and Medicare). The tax rate for SS will be 12.4% on all net earnings from self employment up to a maximum of $106,800 for the year. The Medicare tax rate is 2.9% of all your net earnings with no cap. Since you worked a regular job the first 10 months of the year, you will need to take in to consideration the total SS wages already paid on the salary you received during that time period so you do not exceed the maximum amount that you would owe.

As far as regular income taxes, this will depend on your entire income all year from all sources. If you are married and your spouse also has income, you will need to consider your entire household income to estimate what your taxes will be for the year and then deduct from that your standard deduction and personal allowances based on the number of dependents you can claim. Once you have an estimate of what you will owe, you should deduct from that any income taxes that were already withheld from your paychecks during the last 10 months of the year, and then pay in the balance as estimated payments.

I am giving you a link below to a website which shows the various tax brackets based on your total income and filing status. You can use these brackets to estimate your federal tax liability for theyear.

http://taxes.about.com/od/2009taxes/qt/2009_tax_rates.htm

I am also giving you a similar link for California state taxes to help you estimate your CA state tax liability.

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/itax/edit/state/profiles/state_tax_Cal.asp

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Thank you ween.



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Thanks Merlo for your prompt response. Let me make sure I understand your info and have questions as follow up: What you would need to do is estimate what your net income will be after deducting your expenses. 1)>>Net income - Is this my salary from my corporate job and income I earn as a self-employed? Does this include dividends, interest? If it includes the latter part, I'm not necessarily going to get all that before 1/15/10 (quarterly payment due date). Your net income after expenses is then subject to self employment taxes (SS and Medicare). The tax rate for SS will be 12.4% on all net earnings from self employment up to a maximum of $106,800 for the year. Since you worked a regular job the first 10 months of the year, you will need to take in to consideration the total SS wages already paid on the salary you received during that time period so you do not exceed the maximum amount that you would owe. 2)>>I've already reached the cap paying SS tax from my corporate job. Do I have to pay SS tax from self-employment as well then for 2009? As far as regular income taxes, this will depend on your entire income all year from all sources. If you are married and your spouse also has income, you will need to consider your entire household income to estimate what your taxes will be for the year and then deduct from that your standard deduction and personal allowances based on the number of dependents you can claim. Once you have an estimate of what you will owe, you should deduct from that any income taxes that were already withheld from your paychecks during the last 10 months of the year, and then pay in the balance as estimated payments. 3)>>This sounds to me like that the tax work I normally do to prep for the 4/15 annual deadline I now have to do before 1/15, again, since I would need to wait for dividend and interest info. Appreciate your help. Sounds like more work than I had thought and wondering if it would be easier to get an accountant to do this for me. I'm not married, but in a registered domestic partnership, so for California, that gets a bit more complicated since we can't file together for Federal, but have to for CA. So does that mean even more work for me to pay CA state taxes?

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Hello again ween

1. My net income after deducting expenses, I was only referring to your net income from self employment. Once you become a contract employee, the amount that they pay you will not necessarily be the same amount that you pay tax on. As a contractor you can deduct any expenses you have against that income. This might include such things as mileage, use of home as a business office, tools and supplies you purchase, cost of licenses you hold, etc. It is then your NET income from self employment that you then add to any other income you have for the year in order to get a picture of your overall tax liability. That will include the income you were paid while a W-2 employee as well as any other interest such as dividends, interest, etc.

2. If you have already reach the cap paying SS tax for your corporate job, then you will not have to pay in any more SS tax for 2009. However, starting in 2010 you would have to start paying this tax on your first $106,800 of net earnings from self employment. The medicare tax of 2.9% applies to all earnings, so you would continue to figure that on your net earnings from self employment.

3. All of this is very much like what you do at year end to get ready for your 4/15 filing deadline. The only difference really being is that you will be working with estimated figures rather than acutal figures. As far as hiring an accountant or bookkeeper to help you with this, that may be something you want to consider, at least for your first full year as a contract employee. Once you have a full year behind you then it is easier to estimate your taxes, because in many cases you can simply use the figures from the prior year as long as your income has not changed substantially.

4. If you file a single Federal return then of course it will only be your income that you need to take in to consideration. But if you plan to file a joint return for California, then your partner's income must be figured in to these calculations as well.

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Thank you ween.

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