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IRS TAX QUESTIONS
My employer’s accountant amended my w2’s for 2005, and 2007 and checked the statutory employee box #13. However, he was ill and didn’t fill out all the information for 2006. He filled out the form for 2005 and checked box 13 and for tax year 2007. However, on 06 he didn’t fill out the box 13. We are in an audit for those years. He said he would amend all the years to the statutory employee but missed 2006. Now because he is ill, we cannot get him to amend 06. Because they already amended 05 and 07, can we hold him to the 06 since it was their intent that I was set up as a 1099 person, but for Virginia tax purposes had to be W2’d?   I paid for all the: rent, phones, mailers, postage, supplies, etc.

After closing the office down in May 08, they have not sent my W2’s for 08 or my 1099 for state of Washington. My accountant is going to prepare those since they will not prepare them. Can he go ahead and check statutory employee for the year 08 since that was how I was originally set up?

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Country/State/Province of question: Virginia

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I tried Lev and Ted Johnson who were great - This just came up about the amending attempt

Posted by bizmatters 61 days and 9 hours ago.

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Dear mandes,

 

Thank you for your question.

 

What is your relationship to the employer. I know you said you were a statutory employee; However, I would like to know if you are a partner or is this company a S-corp and you are a share holder, etc?

 

 

61 days and 8 hours ago.

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My boss asked me to open an office in Williamsburg, VA because my husband got a job in Virginia. I worked for her in her Seattle office and did a lot of loans. In Washington, everyone was set up as a 1099 independent contractor. When I went to Virginia, she said to treat the business as a franchise and I gave her 20% off the top and retained 80% on commissions. I paid for everything: rent, phones, mailers, supplies, etc. Virginia laws mandated that I be a w2'd employee. When I was audited for 2005, 06, and 07, the auditor wanted to minimize my legitimate write-offs because I was w2'd. Lev suggested that I have my employer amend the returns to have the box checked "statutory employee" since that was the essence of what was really set up. I was really set up as independant contractor but for Virginia mortgage purposes, labeled w2.

Posted by bizmatters 61 days and 8 hours ago.

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Dear mandes,

 

it would have been better to have remained as a 1099 employee, but I understand the issue with W-2 income and mortgages. MOST lenders do not lend or have a very unfair down payment requirement for self employed persons.

 

The statutory employee is a good ploy to use to meet the mortgage company requirement.

 

The statutory employee rules are listed here: http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=179118,00.html

 

 

he can check the box statuory employee if that is what you were.

 

The problem I see that is not addressed, is that if the employer checks statutory employee, then the employer most likely woudl have to withhold and pay SS and MC taxes; and that the employer has a contributory portion.

 

If you are 1099'd, then you pay all your own SS and MC using self employment tax.

 

If the employer did not withhold, on that 2006 return (and the others), then he may be subject to penalties and interest. Payroll taxes delinquency can produce extremely high penalties for the employer. (query statutory employee at the link below)

 

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p80/ar02.html

 

 

 

 

61 days and 7 hours ago.

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Apparently, my accountant and another said that my employer and I paid in plenty and she might he have some coming back. I think my question is in reference to "intent" by my employer's accountant amending 2 years and then not the other and not sending out 2008 w2 for Virginia loans and the 1099 for Washington loans. My accountant said he would take care of them since my employer being negligent. He isn't sure if he can check the box 13 because he thinks the employer has to do it. However, the employer showed intent in amending since they amended 2 years and the contracts they signed with me were independent contractor agreements. I think since he is preparing the 2008 returns, he should just put statutory employee.

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Your employer showed intent. I understand he is sick.

 

Your accountant can use the employer's intent. BUT you need to at least speak to the employer and get his verbal agreement.

 

If your accountant is not retained by the employer, then your accountant can not amend your employer's W-2's or send out this years unless you at least have a verbal agreement to use your accountant.

 

 

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Dear mandes,

 

You are entitled to follwoup questions. I will have the other one closed that you opened.

 

The IRS will not allow you to divest personal responsibility for your timely tax filing, even if you have accountants on retainer.

 

So if this can not be done on time, and you can not get the accountants to do it on time, then yyou would have to file something on your own. (else suffer the interest and penalties for late filed return).

 

If your CPA/Accountant are end up being responsible to you for late filings, then you can report them to a provider line with the IRS.

 

for example: If a W-2 is not produced for you, then you can use the following form and report to the IRS that the employer refused to provide a W-2.

 

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4852.pdf

 

 



Edited by bizmatters on 9/23/2009 at 2:00 AM

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