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greetings, I have a four year old pure bred beagle. We had her spayed when she came into second heat. never has been bred. Anyway she gained alot of weight so we had her blood checked. The doctor said she has a small thyroid problem and is taking l-Thyroxin 4mg 2x a day. This has not helped and she continues to gain weight. She is not over fed , she gets 1/2 cup of kibble in the am which sits there till evening when she has added to it a 1/2 cup of different meats (shredded beef- boiled and deboned chicken, pork chunks... ect to this is added some rice made from the broth with vegetables added. Soo... what disease could she have perhaps gotton and causes this . We need help, she is like a small harp seal. Thankyou for your time and thoughts   lynn & tom Molloy

Submitted: 63 days and 16 hours ago.
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Pet's Sex: Female
Pet's Age: 4

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We are currently on the prescrition thyroxin .4 mg. We live and 1 1/2 acres and she seems to have sufficient exercise. I marked the wrong amount I would be willing to pay if i like the answer. THE PAGE WAS PREMARKED 30 AND WE WOULD PAY THE 45+. Please offer some suggestion we can test her for. Thx

Posted by NancyH 63 days and 16 hours ago.

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So you tempt her to eat with goodies and she doesn't eat until then?
What food do you feed her for her kibble?
How many calories per cup does it have?
Has she been checked to see if her thyroid is balanced with the med she is getting?
How much exercise does she get each day?

Edited by NancyH on 9/20/2009 at 4:31 AM

63 days and 15 hours ago.

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She is offered food each am as is the other two beagles and a 8 mo bassett hound. They mostly all hold out until dinner in which 1/2 of meat rice and vegs are added. They are diffinatley liking the evening food more than the am with nothing added. I buy different foods as I do not seem to find a real kibble that they are happy with. This last bag is beneful kibble,however again they do not like it any better that the last bag of Iams. She is the only dog overweight. her best pal Willie is the matriarch and is almost 20 . She eats the same amont as the rest. The calories are not on the bag, only the protein amount of 28%.

Posted by NancyH 63 days and 15 hours ago.

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Thanks here is a site to help you figure out how many calories her size dog should need

http://www.mycockerspaniel.com/mer.htm

You can do it for the weight she is and also for the weight you wish she was and compare that.

Usualy on the bag it says kcal per cup somewhere. For example Beneful

http://www.beneful.com/dog-food/Original/Default.aspx#shown

says 360kcal per cup of food.

The meats and any fats and carbs add more calories of course.

I'd suggest adding less goodies to her evening meal to help with calorie reduction.

Maybe make it a tablespoon with some extra broth (fat free broth!) mixed into the dry food. The sad thing is some spayed females just need fewer calories than can be believed to maintain weight in the absence of lots of exercise.

You might try a better quality dry food from the pet supply store (not a big box store though) such as Blue Buffalo, Innova, Canidae, Merrick, Eagle etc. again check calories per cup to decide how much to feed.

Or, as you do home cook now, you might check out a dog cook book for balanced home made foods or a recipe like this one

http://tedeboy.tripod.com/drmichaelwfox/id19.html

or these

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20070331/NEWS01/703310718&SearchID=73286336573052

You can cook and freeze the meals if you want.

 

If you have not had her blood retested for thyroid level that would be a good choice as it may be she isn't on enough of the med to work for her.

Hope this helps you!

 

 

 

 

63 days and 7 hours ago.

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Doctor nancy, I have a real hardtime believing it is her diet. she barely eats as i said 1 cup of food per day and two turkey jrkey treats. Is there anything we are looking over?? What other than food could be wrong. The other dogs are Not heavy. How is the amount of thyroid medicine determined by the vet?? I am certain she has been re checked for the thyroid. Her vet just keeps saying to feed her less, My gosh I feel so bad now that she doesnt eat much. Any other organs or tests you suggest. I was thinking to take her to an endocrinologist and have her checked. I really am pleased with the web sit attachments to help me with the recipies, I have been using some from the Dog magazine I have. For over thirty years I was heavy (180 lbs) and was sick with chronic pancreatitis, last fall they removed my pancreas as well as lots of other organs but anyway I did not diet and within 6 months I have dropped to 126 and a maintaining without any dietary adjustments. I never did eat much. I just want the best for my dog. Sorry for being pushy but there has to be some test we are over looking. Again Please Help and thank you so much for your time.   Lynn

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You might find something running a comprehensive blood test to look at other hormones etc, but in general if the thyroid is properly balanced (and it can change as time goes on) the weight is controlled by the amount of calories in vs the amount burned in a day's exercise. You can read about thyroid issues here

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_hypothyroidism.html

For many dogs spaying reduces the calories needed as less are burned in the maintenance of the body to be ready to produce a litter.

Do try calculating her calories needed per day against her current weight, and what she should weigh and compare to what she is being fed.

Your situation is different as the pancreas controls digestive enzymes and if the pancreas is not working properly food doesn't digest.

You can read about dogs and weight gain here

http://www.thepetcenter.com/article.aspx?id=3409

You might try cutting back her diet by 1/3 and replacing missing high calorie food with carrots, green beans, or plain canned pumpkin (not pie filling) to give her a full feeling with lower calories.

You might increase her daily walks where you insist she be active by walking with her and playing ball with her etc.

 

 

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