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RRJha,

I am working on another classic experiment for a physics project:

"Procedure: Take a basketball (any big ball) and a golf ball (any small ball). Hold the small ball over the big ball and in contact with it. Now drop the balls together from chest height so that the small ball rides the big ball during the fall. Observe what happens to the balls after the collision.

Results and conclusions: Answer the following questions based on the observations made during the experiment.

* How does the big ball move after the collision? Is it different from its motion if it is dropped from the same height alone?

* How does the small ball move after the collision? Is it different from its motion if it is dropped from the same height alone?

Use sketches to explain the results of the experiment."

I will perform the experiment itself soon and will post everything to you for your review. Do you have any helpful insight as I conduct this? How would you visually explain this? Would this be credible help: http://www.exo.net/~pauld/activities/physics/bouncingballs.html

Submitted: 70 days and 6 hours ago.
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Level/Year: College
Subject: Physics

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Studying the topic and performing brief pre-experiments related to the experiment itself to gain further knowledge about the material.

Posted by RRJha 70 days and 6 hours ago.

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Perform the experiment on hard surface and open space, and be careful as the smaller ball would shoot up with good velocity. The website you gave the link to seems good, but note your original observations while performing experiments. We would try to explain those real observations on theoretical grounds.

70 days and 6 hours ago.

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okay.

What about the visual demonstrations?

Posted by RRJha 70 days and 5 hours ago.

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70 days and 5 hours ago.

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Yes, it says we need a sketch, but I can base a sketch off of any visual demonstration.

Also, I would like to see more information about the physics behind this. Thanks!

Posted by RRJha 70 days and 5 hours ago.

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The sketch would be for the moment when the larger ball is bouncing off the surface and the smaller ball still has its downward velocity. We would explain the physics once you make note of observations. You can then add the explanation in your report.

70 days and 5 hours ago.

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Sounds good. Would the visual be similar to the ones on that website I gave you? If so, which would be suitable?

Posted by RRJha 70 days and 5 hours ago.

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This one seems good http://www.exo.net/~pauld/activities/physics/ballbounce1.gif.

70 days and 5 hours ago.

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What about the set on this website:

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/content/kitchenscience/food/exp/monster-bounces/

Posted by RRJha 70 days and 5 hours ago.

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Good demonstration ! The third and fourth picture at the bottom should be of our interest.

69 days and 16 hours ago.

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Here is a video I made for the experiment. Please let me know if I need to change anything about it!


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v202/Droidbuilder/?action=view&current=ballfall.flv

Posted by RRJha 69 days and 15 hours ago.

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Good for demonstration, but the smaller ball should fall almost with same acceleration as the larger ball. So that when the larger ball strikes ground, there is only marginal, almost none, gap between the two.

69 days and 15 hours ago.

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sounds good. I will make the needed changes.

69 days and 15 hours ago.

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Here is the edited version. Let me know if this looks good!

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v202/Droidbuilder/?action=view&current=ballfall-1.flv

Posted by RRJha 69 days and 15 hours ago.

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It's good. If you want, you may change the description at time of impact as " The larger ball bounces off surface and hits smaller ball with larger impact "

69 days and 12 hours ago.

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Here are the sketches I created:

The first one:

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69 days and 12 hours ago.

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Second One:

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Posted by RRJha 69 days and 12 hours ago.

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I must say, you're very good at it :).

69 days and 10 hours ago.

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Thank You!

I am currently working on the conclusion. Do you have any suggestions I could add to my conclusion? Here is what I have so far:

http://viewer.zoho.com/docs/oWM1b

Posted by RRJha 69 days and 9 hours ago.

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69 days and 9 hours ago.

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Would there be any formulas involved here?

Posted by RRJha 69 days and 9 hours ago.

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There would be some. I'd give you.

69 days and 9 hours ago.

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So, you'll post them here? Thanks!

Posted by RRJha 69 days and 9 hours ago.

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Sure. I'm trying to cut it short.

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Posted by RRJha 69 days and 8 hours ago.

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The equation for v2 shows how the returning velocity of smaller ball depends on the coefficient of restitution and the mass of both larger and smaller balls.

69 days and 7 hours ago.

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Here is my updated paper:

It may be helpful to note that I am an animation student, thus, my mention of animation in relation to the physics of the ball bouncing :)

http://viewer.zoho.com/docs/uEcnc

Posted by RRJha 69 days and 7 hours ago.

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Perfect.

69 days and 7 hours ago.

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Thank you so much!

Tomorrow I am going to be taking a timed test (1 hour) with questions requiring equations (6 questions I believe). Could you help me so I can double-check my work? Thank you so much again! You are a wonderful expert!

Posted by RRJha 68 days and 23 hours ago.

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Which chapter, what time in which time zone ?

68 days and 15 hours ago.

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The test (I believe) is about kinetic and potential energy, conservation of energy and momentum, and collisions. There will be basic equations that will require the work taken to reach the answers.

I can take the test at any time... it just has to be before 3:00 am Mountain Standard Time on Tuesday for it to count. So, I can take at any time (today or this evening) you think you could do it. Also, I will be solving them at the same time and use your answers to double check my work and for better understanding.

Let me know what you think so I can "Accept" this answer and move forward.

Thank you again for everything!

Posted by RRJha 68 days and 15 hours ago.

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Can you take it now ? If yes then I am free now. I won't be free in the evening.

68 days and 15 hours ago.

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What is the latest you could do it?

Posted by RRJha 68 days and 15 hours ago.

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I've an examination scheduled later tonight. So I'd like to finish with your test as early as possible. At what time are you willing to take it ?

68 days and 15 hours ago.

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what about 3:30 my time? Is that too late?

Posted by RRJha 68 days and 15 hours ago.

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Okay. Ask for me around that time, once I reply back, take your test.

68 days and 15 hours ago.

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sounds good! Thanks!

68 days and 3 hours ago.

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My teacher had an additional question:

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"You have given a good account of the momentum transfer in this system. What role however it does energy transfer have in determining how far a ball will bounce? And how does energy transfer of help to explain why the small ball bounced so violently?"

Posted by RRJha 67 days and 16 hours ago.

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67 days and 12 hours ago.

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Thank you so much!

I posted a new question for you!

67 days and 7 hours ago.

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RRJha, I had some computer troubles but I am back online. I posted the images to the other question. Please take a look at them as soon as you can. Thank you so much!

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