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i'm looking to transfer securities(mortgage bonds) from my personal account into an entity owned by myself & another person. the bonds have appreciated in price since purchase. what entity can i transfer the assets into to split ownership 50/50 without incurring tax event on capital gains?

Submitted: 98 days and 10 hours ago.
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Posted by Bill 98 days and 10 hours ago.

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If you establish a joint account with rights of survivorship with the same brokerage firm that holds your personal account and transfer the securities in-kind from your personal account to the joint account then you will not incur a tax event resulting in capital gains. In addition, if the securities are held in street name then the transfer will not be considered a gift from you to the other person. However, if the other person makes any withdrawals then a gift will occur at the time of the withdrawal. If a withdrawal and gift occurs and the value of the gift is $13,000 or less then no tax reporting is required. If the gift exceeds $13,000 then you would be required to file a gift tax return (Form 709) but gift tax would not have to be paid as long as the excess gift did not exceed $1,000,000 (the lifetime exemption amount).

98 days and 9 hours ago.

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appreciate the reponse. just want to make clear. the account ownership would be me & my old business partner. currently i put up 100% of capital & extened a loan to him. now he is going to pay me 50% of cost bais of the value of the account. this is where i'm confused about the tax implications. so its actually not a gift. we agreed to split the account 50/50. however i purchased in my brokerage account & now i want him to pay me for his 50% share & move into a joint account. will what you suggested still work?. we were going to move into llc but an accountant told us that would trigger tzx event.

98 days and 6 hours ago.

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appreciate the reponse. just want to make clear. the account ownership would be me & my old business partner. currently i put up 100% of capital & extened a loan to him. now he is going to pay me 50% of cost bais of the value of the account. this is where i'm confused about the tax implications. so its actually not a gift. we agreed to split the account 50/50. however i purchased in my brokerage account & now i want him to pay me for his 50% share & move into a joint account. will what you suggested still work?. we were going to move into llc but an accountant told us that would trigger tzx event.

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From your description it appears that the property should have originally been titled as tenants in common as your intention was to own the securities jointly (assuming you also have a promissory note or other documents indicating the loan and your joint intentions) and not as business property. If my interpretation is correct, then transferring the assets to a new account titled jointly as tenants in common would not be considered a gift nor a sale and the transfer is merely to correct the original title registration error. The transfer would not generate any tax reporting (1099-B) by the investment brokerage firm. A tenants in common account would be considered owned 50% by each of you and each tenant's portion would go to his respective heirs upon death. Upon the maturity or sale of the securities, each tenant would be responsible for reporting gain/loss on his respective tax return based on the difference between the sales proceeds and each tenant's cost basis.

 

http://homebuying.about.com/od/marketfactstrends/qt/0207TinCommon.htm

 

http://www.shiredirect.com/mortgage-glossary/joint-tenancy-vs-tenants-in-common.html

 

 



Edited by Bill on 8/16/2009 at 2:48 PM

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