JustAnswer > Ford
Ask A Question|Register|Login|Help
JustAnswer

Ford

Ask a Ford Question, Get an Answer ASAP!

Have your own Ford question?

25 Ford Mechanics are Online Now
characters left:
Not a Ford Question?

Related Ford Topics:

  • Dtc
  • ,
  • Fix
  • ,
  • Pay
  • ,
  • Pcm
  • ,
  • Top
  • ,
  • Tsb
  • ,
  • Ajar
  • ,
  • Cost
  • ,
  • Door
  • ,
  • Ford
Bookmark and Share

Question

The warning beep sounds and the little battery flashes then goes away and the panel says check charging system. The light goes of and on and the waring beep also goes on and off, constantly sometimes The constant beeping is very annoying. The charge gage doesn't indicate that the battery is discharging. A volt meter at the battery indicates 14.3 volts with engine running and does not fluctuate. Also we have the same door ajar problem everyone seems to be talking about. Someone, please help us.

Submitted: 126 days and 5 hours ago via AutoBeef.
Category: Ford
Value: $15
Status: CLOSED
+
Read More
Posted by Scottdagoalie 126 days and 5 hours ago.

Info Request

Hi XXXXXXXXXXXX. Thank you for asking your question on JustAnswer. The other Experts and I are working on your answer. By the way, it would help us to know:

-What year is your Ford?
-What model is your Ford?
-How many miles are on your Ford?
-What type of engine is in your Ford?


Thank you again for trusting us with your problem. Please reply as soon as possible so that we can finish answering your question.

126 days and 4 hours ago.

Reply

It is a 2003 Ford Expedition, with the 5.4 liter engine

126 days and 4 hours ago.

Reply

It's a 2003 Ford Expedition, Eddie Bauer 5.4 liter engine with 74,000 miles

Posted by Scottdagoalie 126 days and 4 hours ago.

Answer

The charging system is controlled by the PCM (powertrain control module) so the first step in diagnosing this problem would be to have the PCM tested for fault codes.There is a Ford TSB service bulletin related to a false battery lamp flashing caused by a programming issue .The repair for this problem is to reprogram the PCM with the latest updates.

I suggest taking it to a frod dealer to have it tested so that they can do the updates to the PCM if needed.

126 days and 4 hours ago.

Reply

If this problem requires a program update who is responsible for the cost of this procedure? Because a service bulletin was issued by the manufacturer will they pay for this? Obviously this is not a wear and tear issue. Also, is the door ajar problem related to program updates in the PCM as well? I took the vehicle in several months ago and they said if we can't dulpicate the problem we can't fix it. Is this service bulletin fairly recent?

Accepted Answer

Most service bulletins are for information only and not considered a recall ,so ford is unlikely to cover the costs.
The door ajar concern is not likely related to the Programming issue.The door ajar swiitches tend to stick on and can often be lubricated through the latches. If this doesn't help,your dealer can use the same scan tool to test the switches while they are checking for updates.

TSB 04-14-9


FORD:
2003-2004 Expedition
LINCOLN:
2003-2004 Navigator

 

ISSUE:

Some 2003-2004 Expedition/Navigator vehicles may exhibit the following symptoms in any combination:

  • Intermittent Driveability Concerns
  • Intermittent Flickering Of The Charging System Warning Indicator
  • Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) On With DTC's P0620 And/Or P0320 In Memory

These conditions may be caused either by chafing or corrosion of the 14305 harness, or an interaction of the PCM with the charging system.

ACTION:

Check the vehicle build date to select the appropriate Service Procedure.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

 

Vehicles built before 4/2/04: Reprogram PCM to the latest calibration using WDS release B32.2 or higher, and replace the 14305 harness. Apply a very light coat of electrical grease (F8AZ-19G208-AA) on the male pins of the alternator/regulator (C102A connection), and the pins of C192A on the 14305 harness (see Note).

Replace the 14305 harness as follows:

  • Expedition built 3/18/02 - 1/31/03: 2L1Z-14305-AB
  • Expedition built after 2/1/03: 3L1Z-14305-AB
  • Navigator built 3/18/02 - 1/31/03: 2L7Z-14305-AB
  • Navigator built after 2/1/03: 3L7Y-14305-AB

    NOTE: BEFORE APPLYING GREASE TO A NEW SERVICE HARNESS, CHECK THE ENGINEERING PART NUMBER. HARNESSES WITH ENGINEERING PART NUMBER 2L1T-AL, 2L7T-AL, 4L1T-AC, OR 4L7T-AC (OR WITH HIGHER SUFFIXES) ALREADY CONTAIN ELECTRICAL GREASE AND NO ADDITIONAL ELECTRICAL GREASE IS NECESSARY. DO NOT OVERAPPLY GREASE, AS TERMINAL DAMAGE MAY RESULT.

     

Vehicles built from 4/2/04 to 6/14/04: Reprogram PCM to the latest calibration using WDS release B32.2 or higher, and apply a very light coat of electrical grease on the male pins of the alternator/regulator (C102A connection), and the pins of C192A on the 14305 harness (see prior Note).

Vehicles built from 6/15/04 to 7/19/04: Only reprogram PCM to the latest calibration using WDS release B32.2 or higher.

NOTE: VEHICLES BUILT AFTER 4/2/04 HAVE A PROTECTIVE SLEEVE ON THE 14305 HARNESS. VEHICLES BUILT AFTER 6/14/04 ALREADY HAVE GREASE IN THE 14305 HARNESS CONNECTORS.

 

NOTE: DO NOT REPLACE THE ALTERNATOR UNLESS INDICATED BY WORKSHOP MANUAL DIAGNOSTICS.


LABOR OPERATION CLAIMING CHART
Operation Labor Description Application Time
041409A Vehicles Built Before 6/15/04: Check for codes, update the PCM calibration, and replace the 14305 harness if necessary. Apply a very light coat of electrical grease on the male pins of the alternator/regulator (C102A connection), and the pins of C192A on the 14305 harness. Expedition
Navigator
0.6 Hr.
1.4 Hrs.

041409B Vehicles Built From 6/15/04 To 7/19/04: Check for codes update the PCM calibration only. Expedition
Navigator

0.4 Hr.
0.4 Hr.



PART NUMBER PART NAME
2L1Z-14305-AB Harness
2L7Z-14305-AB Harness
3L1Z-14305-AB Harness
3L7Y-14305-AB Harness
F8AZ-19G208-AA Electrical Grease

 

WARRANTY STATUS:

Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage



Edited by Scottdagoalie on 7/20/2009 at 8:58 PM

Picture
Expert: Scottdagoalie
Pos. Feedback: 98.6 %
Accepts: 
Answered: 7/20/2009

Senior Master Tech.

30 years with Ford dealers

+
Read More

Related Ford Questions

  • What was the first year they made a F 150 supercab ? Mike
  • ok i pulled the hpop off my 97 f250 powerstroke to put new
  • At random times my 6 cyl f150 will not start. Once it quit
  • i need a 1994 lincoln continental digital dash wiring diag
  • 1997 Ford F250 CrewCab 2wheel drive with 7.3 Diesel Turbo en...
  • Ive got a F-550 chassis. I was wondering what component cont...
  • 2002 escape, driving along, suddenly the horn started beepin...
  • will ford f250 08 navagation system work in 07 f250



Disclaimer: Information in questions, answers, and other posts on this site ("Posts") comes from individual users, not JustAnswer; JustAnswer is not responsible for Posts. Posts are for general information, are not intended to substitute for informed professional advice (medical, legal, veterinary, financial, etc.), or to establish a professional-client relationship. The site and services are provided "as is" with no warranty or representations by JustAnswer regarding the qualifications of Experts. To see what credentials have been verified by a third-party service, please click on the "Verified" symbol in some Experts' profiles. JustAnswer is not intended or designed for EMERGENCY questions which should be directed immediately by telephone or in-person to qualified professionals.
Question List | Become an Expert | Terms of Service | Security & Privacy | About Us
© 2003-2009 JustAnswer Corp.