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96 Chevy Suburban. No 1st or 2nd Gear. 3rd and Reverse Work. Replaced all shift solenoids and valve body. Tested all wires and checked Trans. What is the problem? Could it be outside the trans.?

Submitted: 145 days and 13 hours ago.
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Posted by akcarguy 145 days and 13 hours ago.

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the clutch pack for first, or the thrust bearing the two clutch packs has failed, a rebuild is what younow need, or a replacement tranny. if you had reverse and third go out, then it would be a slipping band, but since its not, this indicative of a transmission that has a bad clutch or thrust bearing, and needs rebuilt or replaced

145 days and 13 hours ago.

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Trans was recently rebuilt. It should be fine.

145 days and 13 hours ago.

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Clutch Packs were checked. Trans goes into 3rd speed if computer is unplugged or it is up to 3rd gear speed.

Posted by akcarguy 145 days and 13 hours ago.

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how long ago was recently, and that doesnt mean something was not done correctly which could give you a bad tranny, you need a rebuild or replacement, as it sounds the piston seals and bearings were not checked for total endplay, and one or the other is definitely bad, requiring a rebuild. there is nothing external to cause this. if the thrust bearing or clutch packs are not bad, then the valve body is sticking not letting fluid bypass back to the main channel to allow the movement of the other valve. this is what causes this problem.

145 days and 12 hours ago.

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The valve body was replaced. I don't think it is the piston seals because it will go into 3rd. It acts as if the solenoids are not functioning. I have checked all of the connections and 12v supply to the trans. I've replaced the computer. been through the whole tranny twice and could not find anything wrong except trash coming from the converter(which apparently was reused from the previous tranny that may have destroyed a sungear or something. I have air checked all of the pistons. The only thing I haven't done that I can think of is actually starting the vehicle, putting it in first and wiggling the wiring harness -to- case connector to see if the pegs are not connecting, I would think that this would throw a code, but there are no codes.

Posted by akcarguy 145 days and 12 hours ago.

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first, third has no clutch or piston seal, it is direct drive through the transmission, all this does is verify the band is engaging. this also has nothing to do with the valve body, but the reverse does. the fact that you have have reused a torque converter just leads me to believe me to believe i am that much more correct, especially if you had it installed in a tranny that went bad.

you need another transmission, or at least you need to replace the clutch drums and sun shell. pressure loss explains your problem exactly and even though you may not like it, you have a bad tranny.; time for a new one, or at least a known good one from a wrecking yard or somewhere else.

you would probably not get a code from a weak plug in the side, and its definitely worth a try, but im 99% sure that is not the case, as if it was you wouldnt be able to start the truck.

145 days and 12 hours ago.

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Here is what happened. I bought this rig from a car dealer. I assume that It had a bad tranny when they bought it. So they put a rebuilt tranny in with the converter from the previous tranny. I know that direct drive means that the trans and the engine are going the same speed. however, the 3-4 clutch pack does engage when the computer is unplugged and does not engage when the computer is plugged in unless I let it coast down a mountain and it reaches 3rd gear speed. There is a piston behind the 3-4 clutch pack so why would it no have a seal? The 2-4 band is not applying but air tests good. I have blown air trough all of the case and 2-4 servo passages and cleaned everything.

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the 3-4 clutch as it is called, is 4 th only. its the transition from 3 to 4 that makes it a dual style clutch,

i am currently dealing with the exact problem you are having, odd as that sounds, but there is one thing different, you have reused an old torque converter from an old transmission. right there i would throw out the entire tranny, and i can contribute all the problems you have to that alone. my problem is from a bad case, just have to find where.

the problem will not be in the computer but in the tranny, ill opt pout so some1 else an answer, but after specializing in GM transmissions for the last 6 years, you have a bad case or piston seal.

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