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A spring or two broke at the same time. suddenly the riding lawn mower would not go in any direction more than super slow speed. I took it to a local technician but they could not help me. They said I had the spring (932-0384) in the correct place but, in still went super slow.   My troy bilt is a 13AJ609G766 . I have purchased 3 springs that may be the right ones according to the Operators Manual. It is difficult to determine where they go even with the manual.   I have replaced all 4 belts. The deck is currently off until I can figure out where the springs attach.   The springs I purchased are   932-0384, 732-04197, XXX-XXXX. Help I have been mowing 1.5 acres with a push mower for weeks!

Submitted: 153 days and 22 hours ago.
Category: Small Engine
Value: $15
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Posted by PK. 153 days and 15 hours ago.

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Of your two drive belts, are they both loose? Is the transaxle the original one or has it been upgraded?

153 days and 14 hours ago.

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they were both very loose and the transaxle is the original. the mower is approx. 5 yrs. old. nothing has been replaced until this incident. have never had a problem til now

Posted by PK. 153 days and 13 hours ago.

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Are both belts still loose?

 

The spring on the idler for the small belt goes straight forward and hooks to a bolt or a hole in the frame if it hasn't had the update kit installed. That spring will be XXX-XXXX.

 

XXX-XXXX hooks to the idler bracket on the long belt and goes to the clutch pedal.

 

Is this how you have them hooked up?

153 days and 13 hours ago.

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not sure , have to go check

will be tomorrow before i will know for sure

I replaced all belts but dont have deck connected yet

have already spend $250. on this piece of #%#

Posted by PK. 153 days and 13 hours ago.

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There have been a number of problems with them and there was a redesign of the transaxle and the small belt idler set-up for many models. There is an adjustment for tightening the main belt on the main idler. It's a threaded rod with a couple of adjustment nuts. It will take a little slack out of the belt, but really is just good for slight slippage.

 

Check it and let me know what you find and we'll go from there. Thanks, PK.

152 days and 19 hours ago.

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Are you talking about the transmission drive belt? There is no bolt or any place that one may have been to connect the XXX-XXXX spring and the only hole it could hook to is too far away. That spring would be way over streched! Do you think that the reason it goes so slow could be because of what appears to be a brake that is engaged on the right side pulley on the deck. Will it be disengaged once i put it back on . I dont know but it looks like another spring is missing there with no place to attach it.

Posted by PK. 152 days and 18 hours ago.

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On the idlers for the long drive belt, is there not a spring going to the motion pedal?

 

There are no brakes on the drive pulleys. On the mower deck, the blade pulleys have brakes. Are these what you're referring to?

152 days and 18 hours ago.

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Yes the blade pulley on the deck.

Posted by PK. 152 days and 18 hours ago.

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Those disengage when the deck is activated and have no bearing on the motion.

152 days and 18 hours ago.

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Ok but I still dont see where the spring on the idler belt can hook and the update kit has not been installed unless it was done before I purchased it brand new from Lowes. Im sure the spring should not be stretched more than twice the length. It wont give that much and it is the XXX-XXXX spring.

152 days and 18 hours ago.

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I mean the XXX-XXXX

Posted by PK. 152 days and 18 hours ago.

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Is there anything connecting the idler on the long belt to the motion pedal?

 

Where do you have the spring for the idler on the small belt attached?

 

XXX-XXXX is for the idler on the small belt and goes either to a bolt that's sticking out just for this or a hole in the frame. If it hasn't been updated, it goes almost straight towards the front, actually at 11 o'clock. If it has been updated, it goes to the 9 o'clock to a bolt that sticks up.



Edited by PK. on 6/22/2009 at 7:27 PM

152 days and 18 hours ago.

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That is what you said before There is no bolt and the spring would have to be stretched too far. It wont stretch that far.

Posted by PK. 152 days and 17 hours ago.

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Then the bolt has probably broken off if there's no place in the frame for it. That spring is what gives the tension to the small belt and without it, no motion. That spring is also why they changed the design. It was moved to the 9 o'clock and the bracket the pulley rides on was changed to increase tension as the belt stretched.

152 days and 17 hours ago.

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So what should I do

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You'll have to find the spot where the spring connected. If you have the idler pulley for the small drive belt on the right-hand side of the mower, it goes pretty much straight ahead of the large pulley on the transaxle, look for where the spring was connected. Keep in mind that the spring sits at the 11 o'clock of the pulley and you should be able to see where some wear is from where it hooked up. Some have a bolt, some a hole in the frame. If it had a bolt, then you can just install a new bolt.

 

I have to run out and pick up my Son but I'll be back on here in an hour or so.

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152 days and 17 hours ago.

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I'll have to check tomorrow. Time for me to .go to work

151 days and 21 hours ago.

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sorry I may not get back to you until tomorrow but I have increased fee for you to $25.00Hopefully this works

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