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Help! We are trying to install a different hanging lamp and can not get the light bulb in the lamp to light. The existing wires in the ceiling are solid aluminum supply wires. We know there is electricity is in the aluminum ceiling wires because we tested it (115 v.) We are trying to connect the aluminum wires to braided copper wire which will run to the lamp. We've tested everything and everything seems good, but the problem is we can not get a connection that will light the light bulb. So the problem has to be the connection. We sanded and wire brushed all the connecting wires. What else can we do? Thank you !

Karen Wedick

Submitted: 248 days and 20 hours ago.
Category: Electrical
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Posted by Paul 248 days and 20 hours ago.

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Hi Karen

 

When connecting to aluminum wiring you must use a special wire nut rated for aluminum wire. These are availible at any big box store HD or Lowes.

 

 

Have you tried wiring the light and using a tester at the socket? I know it sounds simple but have to tried another bulb?

248 days and 20 hours ago.

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I had the socket wired and touched the two ends to the aluminum and got nothing. We tried tying them on by wrapping it around. We have the special wire nuts, tried it with them the first time and got nothing so we don't want to go through the whole process again until we know the electicity is flowing to the bulb. I checked the bulb - it is good.

Is there a special technique to make a good connection between these 2 different wires?

Posted by Paul 248 days and 15 hours ago.

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Hi Karen Sorry I had to step out for a few minutes.

 

When you tested for voltage, where did you test, and what type of tester did you use?

248 days and 13 hours ago.

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We used an Analog Multimeter (it takes 2 double A batteries for continuity testing) and a wire tester (which lights up if there is electricity flowing). Everything we tested seemed to have juice. The existing wires in the ceiling that we are connecting to previously worked fine with a different light fixture. There is 1 red single aluminum wire and a triple 'pigtail' which has three different wires braided together. It goes to a dimmer switch on the wall. When we put our wire tester up to these wires, it lit up telling us that there is electricity there. The meter read 115 volts. Then we combined these wires with the wire leading to the lamp (which we had tested by themselves as well as the socket for the light bulb and the OHM meter showed they were all working). We have tested the wire,the socket by itself and all of them show continuity. How should the connection be made between braided Copper and solid Aluminum wire? We have the anti-oxidant and special wire nuts but we are figuring we must be doing something wrong since there was a working circuit between aluminum and copper connections previously that worked. Should we open the pigtail up? We already sanded and wire brushed the wires trying to make a better connection but nothing.

Posted by Paul 248 days and 13 hours ago.

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So you tested between the red and white. One of the problems with aluminum wire is the slightest nick will cause it to break. I would shut the power off, then untwist the white wires, you might find one broke. The al/cu wire nuts can be installed just like regular wire nuts. Let me know what you find when you open the white wires.

248 days and 13 hours ago.

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The room is dark right now but we will try it in the morning. I'll let you know. Thanks Paul.

Karen

Posted by Paul 248 days and 13 hours ago.

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No problem. I have to work until about 3pm EST. Just post back to this question.

238 days and 18 hours ago.

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Hi Paul,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you but we had to go out of town. We just opened up the pigtail and sanded it and bought new wire and a new socket but still can't get the light bulb to light. (good light bulb). It seems we get a 115 volt reading from the ceiling wires by themselves but as soon as we put a 100 watt load on it we get no reading on the meter. The switch on this is a dimmer. We previously, when all these problems started, had a short circuit - probably a bad wire on the light. Could the dimmer have been damaged from the short circuit so it can't handle the load. Is there an easy way to test the dimmer?

Thanks for your help.

Karen

Accepted Answer

Hi Karen

 

The dimmer is most likely junk. They do not like that short circuit stuff at all.

Seeing you are getting a voltage reading, I am willing to bet the dimmer has a light on it and that is why you get voltage. Replace that dimmer and "you will see the light". :-)

 

Let me know if you need more help.

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237 days and 15 hours ago.

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Thanks Paul again - hope this all went through.

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