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I have two questions on my 2001 Dodge Grand Caravan ES.

1. The rear AC fan is not working at all from the front or rear controls, no air. Is the resistor the most common failure, where is it located and what steps are needed to remove it.

2. The backlight for the control buttons in overhead console and some of the central console are burned out. I have been told that they are not replacable and to order a complete unit which seems unusual. Can the lamps be replaced and removing the overhead console seems difficult. What is the procedure?

Please email answers to both of my email addresses:

XXXXX@XXXXXX.XXX

and

XXXXX@XXXXXX.XXX

Thank you,

XXX XXXXX

Submitted: 173 days and 7 hours ago.
Category: Chrysler
Value: $15
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Posted by David Dill 172 days and 23 hours ago.

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Sorry, but all correspondence must go through this site. JA rules.

There isn't a big problem with the rear resistor like there is with the front. It would be best to perform a voltage check at the resistor and motor to determine what is going on. This will determine if in fact the resistor is bad or the motor or something else. They are located behind the passenger side rear panel.

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As far as the bulbs in the overhead go there may not be a replacement bulb available. Did you check both aftermarket part stores and the dealership? I'll try to find the removal procedure for the overhead and get that to you. My dealer site isn't working this morning for some reason.

172 days and 8 hours ago.

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Could you provide some specifics as to where the rear fan and resistor are located so I can take the readings, I never really looked for them. Do you have any specifics on what voltage measurements should be obtained and the proper test points?

 

Getting the overhead console out, would allow me to possibly find replacement lamps from somewhere.

172 days and 8 hours ago.

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Could you provide some specifics as to where the rear fan and resistor are located so I can take the readings, I never really looked for them. Do you have any specifics on what voltage measurements should be obtained and the proper test points?

 

Getting the overhead console out, would allow me to possibly find replacement lamps from somewhere.

 

 

Accepted Answer

The voltage will be battery at the connector to the blower resistor.

 

Here are the instructions to remove te overhead console.

 

  • Remove the overhead console retaining screw, located in the front of console.
  • Using your fingertips, grasp the sides of the overhead console and pull straight down evenly to disengage the two snap clips at the rear of the unit.
  • Lower the overhead console far enough to access the wire harness connectors.
  • Disconnect the EVIC, CMTC or CT electronic module and the reading/courtesy lamps electrical connector.
  • Remove the overhead console from the vehicle.
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    Expert: David Dill
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    Answered: 6/4/2009

    ASE Certified Technician

    18 years as Technician, 13 years as Chrysler Technician

    169 days and 21 hours ago.

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    David,

     

    Sorry, I was having computer problems at home and could not get to my email there. That was why I was asking for you to have the response go to two different emails, if possible, will your site allow you to respond to my work email? XXXXX@XXXXXX.XXX

     

    Your reply on the overhead is fine and thank you for that.

     

    I was also looking for more information on the location of the rear resistor, the blower fan, and how to remove the fan.

     

    If the rear blower works like the front, then when the resister goes bad, it would only work on high blower, correct? That being the case the fuse and relay for the rear blower appear to be OK. I swapped the rear blower relay with the accessory relay and it still didn't work. Most of the relays seem to be the same part number, so I assume they are interchangable. Switching them made no difference.

     

    Posted by David Dill 169 days and 10 hours ago.

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    JA only allows intaction through this site and format. They block personal info for privacy concerns.

    Looks like the picture I sent was a no-go. I'll try a different method.

    Try this link to see if it is readable. http://senduit.com/b05f98

    This is at the right rear quarter panel. If you can peel back the panel to get to the resistor you won't have to remove it fully. So some of these steps aren't needed.

    1. Remove first row seat.
    2. Remove second row seat.
    3. Remove sliding door sill trim panel.
    4. Remove quarter trim bolster.
    5. Remove D-pillar trim panel.
    6. Remove first row seat belt anchor.
    7. Remove second row seat belt anchor.
    8. Remove screws attaching quarter trim to quarter panel from bolster area.
    9. Remove screws attaching rear edge of quarter trim to attaching bracket.
    10. Disengage hidden clips attaching front of quarter trim to quarter panel rearward of sliding door opening and at locators.
    11. Remove quarter trim from quarter panel.
    12. Disconnect speaker wire connector on LWB quarter trim panel with rear air conditioning.
    13. Pass second row seat belt through slot in trim panel on long wheel base vehicle.
    14. Pass first row seat belt through slot in trim panel.
    15. Remove quarter trim panel from vehicle.

    158 days and 10 hours ago.

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    David,

     

    Even though some of the Dodge Caravan's around my year allow the rear AC fan motor to come out towards the interior, mine comes out toward the body requiring removal of the entire coil box assy, so I had to take my car into the dealer.

     

    I took everything apart, but there was no way to get the motor out and I called two other techs I know and they both confirmed that some require disconnecting the refrigerant lines to get it out.

     

    I am dissappointed that you made no mention of this. Even my Haynes manual had one picture showing the blower motor facing inwards for easy removal. that must have been a pre - 2001 model.

     

    Lou

    Posted by David Dill 158 days and 7 hours ago.

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    Why did you need to remove the blower motor when you asked about the blower resistor? Did you find that the motor was bad and not the resistor? That procedure is way different from the resistor and does require removal of the entire unit.

    157 days and 15 hours ago.

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    My original question included procedure to replace both. When I open up the panels, I tried to turn the motor and it was frozen. I was able to break it loose, but the bearings were shot. I had purchased the new motor, so I plugged it in and the new motor worked fine indicating that the resister and controls were good.

     

    I was very frustrated that I couldn't removed the motor. I would not have wasted the time taking everything apart had I known in advance that you have to discharge the system in order to remove and replace it. I don't have the equipment necessary to do recovery and recharge.

     

     

     

     

    Posted by David Dill 157 days and 14 hours ago.

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    Here are your original questions:

    I have two questions on my 2001 Dodge Grand Caravan ES.

    1. The rear AC fan is not working at all from the front or rear controls, no air. Is the resistor the most common failure, where is it located and what steps are needed to remove it.

    2. The backlight for the control buttons in overhead console and some of the central console are burned out. I have been told that they are not replacable and to order a complete unit which seems unusual. Can the lamps be replaced and removing the overhead console seems difficult. What is the procedure?

     

    Had I known you wanted to work with the motor as well I would have provided you with those steps. I had no reason not to.

    My first test for any electrical issue is to make sure there is a good ground and power to the component is question. So access to the resistor and motor connectors would be the first step. Once power and ground are established, then you look at actual component failure by process of elimination.

    156 days and 13 hours ago.

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    David,

     

    Sorry it was in my June 6th reply that I mentioned -

     

    " I was also looking for more information on the location of the rear resistor, the blower fan, and how to remove the fan."

     

    it really doesn't matter now, just had me messed up when it happened.

     

    Thanks,

    Posted by David Dill 156 days and 12 hours ago.

    Info Request

    My apologies, I missed that for some reason. Sorry for the lack of info.

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