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I have two indoor only cats.   Siblings, male female, six years old.   I have two litter boxes; one upstairs one downstairs.   The female uses the upstairs the male the downstairs.

They went to the vet in December.   Both are in good health.

The male constantly dominates the female and lately I think he may have started to visit her litter box.

I awoke this morning to cat pee in my bed. This has happened before, about 6 times now and I thought it was the silk comforter I was using so I took it off of the bed.   since then the pee has happened two times, this morning is the second.

I have feliway plugs in all rooms . . . one right by the bed.

I put Dr. Bach's flower stuff in their water.

Help!

Submitted: 178 days and 23 hours ago.
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I have already told you this . . .two indoor only cats . . . one male ; one female both 6 years old

They are tuxedo domestic shorthair

I have removed comforter
I have Feliway plugs
I use Dr. Bach's

I washed linens and quilt in Arm and Hammer detergent with white vinegar added.

Posted by Terri Riba 178 days and 23 hours ago.

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Hi there,

 

Please describe how he "dominates" her.

 

Thanks,

 

Terri

 

 

 

178 days and 22 hours ago.

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I visited this website a while ago . . . when they were both 4 . . . entering social maturity.   The male was redirecting agression at the female upon seeing cats outside the window.    He would chase her . . . this is why I got the Feliway etc.

Now, he approaches her as if to play and places his paw behind her neck . . . she runs from him to her hidey-hole in the closet downstairs.

They don't really fight . . . I've not seen ears back/hissing/swatting etc.   I have seen brushy tail on both of them though.

His dominance is expressed in that if she finds a neat place to sleep, he has to have it . . . if I try playing with him to keep him occupied, and she approaches, he stops playing.   

They constantly are on alert for each other . . . he will lie down in one room by the door and wait for her to walk by to pounce etc.   She spends her time away from him . . . if he is up, she is down etc.

They don't always act like this . . . they often sleep the afternoon away in the same room proximate to each other.

Oh, I did forget to tell you I got them at the local shelter, they were feral . . . taken to the shelter at about 6 to 8 weeks; I adopted them at 12 weeks or so.

Posted by Terri Riba 178 days and 21 hours ago.

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Dear friend,

 

What you are decribing is perfectly normal feline behavior. In a cat heirarchy one cat just has to be Head Kitty and dominant and the other submissive. It's just what cats do.Its the way they survive in a social order since they are basically loners and not pack animals like dogs.

 

Go through this checklist

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DOES YOUR CAT URINATE OUTSIDE THE CATBOX?

 

Cat's who urinate inappropriately can be very frustrating. With a little understanding of the reasons why our beloved cats begin doing this behavior, we can take positive steps toward finding a resolution.

 

Inappropriate urination can occur for two different reasons. It can indicate a medical problem or it can be a behavioral problem. Cats begin urinating outside the box as a response to something that is wrong, either with them or their environment. It is not just them "behaving badly" and cats don't urinate inappropriately out of "spite". It is unfair and ineffective to spend weeks or months blaming a cat for urinating inappropriately when it may not be his/h er fault. As responsible pet owners, it is our duty to try to figure out what they are trying to tell us.

 

Cats can experience 4 different medical causes of inappropriate urination. It is a common misunderstanding that the only medical reason is a bladder infection. An infection, especially in cats with good kidney function, is rare. Cats commonly get a condition called cystitis (sterile inflammation). This is thought be caused by eating primarily dry foods. Some cats can also have microscopic crystals in their bladders that can cause irritation. These crystals are thought to be linked to a diet of primarily dry food, although the carbohydrate content (grains) in the diet can play a role by changing the pH of the urine from what it should be. Cats can have small stones in their bladder or kidneys that cause chronic irritation.

 

Some of the above listed medical conditions can cause intermittent inappropriate urination. Most people think if a cat only exhibits signs occasionally, it is behavioral. This is not true. The only way to tell the difference between medical and behavioral causes is to have the urine checked by a veterinarian. Another common misconception is that only male cats spray, or spraying a vertical surface always indicates a behavioral issue. This is also not true. Female cats can spray just like males, and ANY urination outside the box should be checked with a urinalysis.

 

The most common symptoms of a medical problem are frequent attempts to urinate, more frequent visits to the cat box, producing smaller amounts of urine, taking longer to pass the urine (straining), crying during urination, licking the genital region a lot, or urinating outside the box. Every cat experiences a different level of discomfort and not all signs may be present. It is important to take any changes very seriously.

 

Male cats are especially susceptible to forming a urinary obstruction. If this happens it is a life-threatening emergency. If you are ever unsure if your cat is passing urine, and he is male, seek veterinary attention immediately.

 

True behavioral problems can often be solved by following these general rules:

 

1. You should always provide at least one box per cat.

2. These boxes should be in separate rooms in the house, not next to each other.

3. The boxes, or at least one box, should be uncovered.

4. The boxes should be the largest you can find. We prefer the plastic storage containers you can find in variety or home improvement stores.

5. We always prefer scoopable, unscented litter. The natural, scoopable litters are thought to be healthier than clay litter (i.e.: corn, wheat). Silica crystals are also acceptable and great for odor control.

6. The boxes should be scooped of all urine and feces at least daily (no exceptions).

7. The entire litter amount should be completely changed at least every 2 weeks because the clean looking litter will eventually absorb odor.

8. The boxes should be kept away from noisy appliances or ‘busy' areas of the house.

9. Use appropriate odor control/cleaning methods in soiled areas (see below).

10. If you have more than one box, try different types of litter in each.

 

We can't read our cat's minds so we are much more successful at solving the problem by offering our cats choices. Addressing all 10 points above will make your chance at success greater.

 

The reason we always recommend at least one box per cat is to reduce perceived competition among cats. Even if your cats get along, if one is using the box or they have just had a sibling "spat", there will always be an available box for the other one to choose from. This is the reason you should never keep all cat boxes right next to each other. Cats sometimes want p rivacy and their own space.

 

Covers were designed for human convenience. While some cats don't mind them, most prefer to have a good view of their surroundings while eliminating. Covers can make them feel cornered. They also trap odors inside which can be distasteful to your cat.

 

Even jumbo cat boxes are too small for many cats. They need room to be able to move, dig an appropriate hole, squat, eliminate, and then cover. If they feel cramped or if they are older and arthritic, they may chose an easier location.

 

Cat's toe pads are extremely sensitive, like our fingertips. Cats can be very opinionated about what texture of litter they prefer. Choosing something soft is usually best. Offering a choice of litter types will also help make sure they stay satisfied. We always recommend scoopable litters (except in the case of crystals) as these produce a cleaner cat box. The dust from clay litter can be unhealthy for the lungs. Scoopable litters such as Swheat Scoop (wheat) or World's Best (corn) are a natural alternative to clumping unscented litters if your cat likes them.

 

The location of the box is also extremely important. The laundry room is the most common location. However, it can be extremely noisy and sometimes scary due to the washer, dryer, etc. Consider adding a box in a different location.

 

Normal cat urine will glow under a black light in a darkened room. This is an easy way to locate areas of inappropriate urination. The strongest, most effective odor removal product currently on the market is called Urine Off. It is not recommended to clean the area prior to using this product. It is available at many veterinary clinics, pet stores, and online.

 

 

178 days and 21 hours ago.

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I have two covered boxes . . . due to the fact that one is in my walk in closet and I want to keep 'dust' to a minimum and the other is in the downstairs bathroom, which is seldom used, but is in a 'public area' so I don't want it uncovered.

I use Cat Country Elite wheat grass litter . . . small, hard pellets.   They use the boxes.

I have read most of what you shared online already.   I guess I will just get some "Nature's Miracle" to apply to the bed/bedding etc. and I will make an appointment with the vet.

Posted by Terri Riba 178 days and 21 hours ago.

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That is a good idea. Your girl may be stressed and that can cause a UTI.

 

Whenever a formerly clean kitty begins to soil out of box, she is usually trying to communicate some sort of pain or distress to her human "mom" or "Dad"

Cats may not seem unwell because it is their nature to hide an illness as long as possible but if the urine or stool is abnormal in any way - that will be your first clue. If her appetite is different that is an indication as well.

Your cat may have a urinary tract infection.

UTI's must be treated with an effective broad spectrum antibiotic like Clavamox or clidamycin and for a long enough duration so all bacteria is eradicated. If not, they will refluorish, stronger and more resistant and re infect her . In addition, the bacteria can become tolerant of the same antibiotic so the medication should be varied for best results.

http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/cystitis.html

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/32507/feline_cystitis_symptoms_and_its_treatments.html

Anything new is very stressful to a cat because kitty's HATE change and stress can lead to illness so you want to watch for any developing symptoms.

Give her a teaspoon of plain yogurt every day. That will keep "good" bacteria in his colon.

She can also have one drop of unsweetened cranberry juice every day to lower the PH of herstool and urine.

If this continues or gets worse she should be checked.She is not just doing this to annoy you or because he got mad as cats do not think like that - she may not feel well and is trying to let you know about it.Or she is confused..

Sometimes cats become "picky" about the condition of their box and do not want to share or use the same one for both things..Try adding an additional one and see if that helps.

Also try cat attract litter sold in pet supply stores. Clean any soiled areas with an enzyme product so he can no longer smell it. Bleach will not fool a cats nose either

She may be marking in a desperate attempt to reattain her head cat status or she may just be intimidated or sick.

Spray with feliway http://www.catfaeries.com/ to fool her into thinking items are already marked. Try rescue remedy sold in pet supplies and is rubbed on the gums.

Clean with an enzyme product like zero odor or odor mute because regular detergents will not fool her either. With carpet you must lift it and treat the padding.

Please let me know how she is doing. if you still have questions, I will always be here for you.

I hope she stops real soon and feels better!

Very sincerely,

Terri

178 days and 21 hours ago.

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Terri I appreciate you help.

I had a cat prior to these two.   She was indoor/outdoor and ate wet and dry food.   She was very picky about her food, so when I got the new cats, I decided they would be indoor only and that they would eat only dry food . . . I DON'T GIVE THEM PEOPLE FOOD I was told that was a 'no'.

I've been curious about the dry only food . . . I read about 'raw' foods, wet food etc. I just didn't know what to do.

So, should I continue to watch them, giving them both yogurt and cranberry juice OR should I take them to the Vet?

Accepted Answer

Hi there,

 

Dry food is not good for cats. It promotes, diabetes renal issues, obesity, etc.

PLEASE READ:

 

http://www.catinfo.org/

 

I would not switch radically to raw. It can upset their tummies.

Canned food is best for many reasons

 

I would try the cranberry juice and yogurt. BUT if this peeing out of box continues OR if you determine the male is the culprit I would see the vet ASAP.

 

Please let me know how they are doing. I will always be here for you.

 

Warmest best wishes,

 

Terri

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