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This is a Traffic Court question: California. I just missed my deadline for Trial by Written Declaration (I have paid bail already and filled out the forms but did not submit the forms as I should have done by today). I thought the deadline was tomorrow (04/03/2009): Don't ask, I am European and totally got months and days numbers mixed up. I was pleading not guilty - and I am not. Do I have any chance of getting another date for my trial or have I lost my 1,065USD bail? Am I gonna be punished with another penalty?

Submitted: 218 days and 22 hours ago.
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This is a relatively simple and straightforward case I was challenging but as I said I stupidly missed the deadline by mixing up the European with the American months/days system. I was wrongly given a citation for two infractions - registration of vehicle and licence tags while I was legally driving under the 6month report of sales registration document etc. My problem is really to do with missing this deadline for a Trial by Written Declaration (it was today and I thought it was tomorrow: I took the fourth month first digit as the 4 of April: 04/03/2009). What options do I have? Have I lost my case because of that? Will I need to pay more fines and penalties? Please Help! it is urgent.

Posted by Wayne Patterson 218 days and 22 hours ago.

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You can still appear in court on your court date and see if the judge will allow you to take traffic school. There is a chance the officer will not show and they will dismiss. You can always enter a not guilty plea and ask for a trial. If you go to trial you will usually lose unless you have an attorney and even then you only have a 50/50 chance at best in most cases. In CA you can only get a trial by judge, not by jury. Many of the judges simply agree with whatever the officer says.

 

Like everything it depends on the circumstances, any witnesses you may have, and any defenses that are available to you.

 

There is not another penalty except the one you will get from your insurance company.

 

Where did you get the 6 month idea from? In CA you only have 30 days.



Edited by Wayne Patterson on 4/4/2009 at 3:45 AM

218 days and 22 hours ago.

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Wayne as I explained I have just missed my court date so to speak - the deadline for the Trial by Written Declaration (court appearance by declaration) - what do you mean making a court appearance on my court date? And what are you talking about traffic school? This is an infraction to do with vehicle registration which I have now corrected, and in any case according to section 4456c of the Vehicle code I am allowed to operate the vehicle for 6 months after the purchase date on the Report of Sales form - I legally driving the vehicle when I was given the citation. My problem is again: what happens now that I have missed my deadline for the TBWD - will I be given another court date, another chance? Do they have any grace periods for genuine mistakes like this? Does the court clerk have any leeway on earth to accept or backdate my expired Trial by Declaration form when I show on Monday morning at his/her office?

 

 

 

Posted by Wayne Patterson 218 days and 22 hours ago.

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They can't backdate the TBD but you should still be able to ask for a trial date. Talk to the clerk. Due to a site problem we can't see the already tried info until later. That causes a lot of confusion and they are working on it. sometimes it shows and sometimes not. I didn't know what was the violation until you posted again.

 

I found the section you were talking about. I was referencing the 30 days the fees have to be paid to the DMV. It looks like you are correct about the 6 months so you should be able to get a dismissal in court. Surprised the officer gave you the ticket in the first place.

218 days and 22 hours ago.

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dear wayne,

Thanks for that - do you have any advice about possible arguments that may make the clerk more sympathetic to someone that has made a genuine (cultural) mistake like this and whether they accept (in any circumstances) to give you another chance, another right for a Trial by Written Declaration?

 

218 days and 19 hours ago.

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I could not find your answer to my latest question. Perhaps another system blip? I am pasting it below

 

dear wayne,

Thanks for that - do you have any advice about possible arguments that may make the clerk more sympathetic to someone that has made a genuine (cultural) mistake like this and whether they accept (in any circumstances) to give you another chance, another right for a Trial by Written Declaration?

 

 

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Court clerks are not sympathetic to anyone. A missed date is a missed date. You are going to have to schedule a trial.

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