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My father died last year and I guess when my Stepmother died he forgot to change over the Insurance policy. Now I am have to fill out a Small Estate Afadavite and have no idea how to do this. I have the form just not sure what needs filled out on it.

Submitted: 235 days and 15 hours ago.
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Garland, Texas

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I haven't tried anything yet just got the form last week and have never had to do this before. A friend gave me this site.

About how long does it usually take to get answers on an average? Thank you.

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XXXXX X.XXXXX

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Laura -

The small estate affidavit is a court document, and it is asking questions which are intended to verify that the procedure is the proper one for you to be using and that you are entitled to transfer the asset under that process. That's why the form is so detailed.

Keep in mind that the form is only supposed to be used where the entire estate of the decedent (excluding the homestead) was $50,000 or less, and the deceased person had no will. Depending on what else your father had, this may not be the appropriate procedure to use.

As far as filling out the forms: domicile is where dad lived. Unless he owned real estate in a different county or state, you wold list that same county as the place where "the principal part of his assets were situated".

The list of people (distributees, heirs, devisees, etc) is the place where you list who all would inherit from your father. The want to know who has a legal interest in the question of who gets the asset you are trying to access by use of this affidavit.

In the assets and liabilities section, you are basically doing a quick estate accounting: what did he own at the time of death, and what did he owe.

The form needs to be signed by all the parties with a legal interest in dad's estate.

If the court accepts the affidavit, they will execute the order which effectively serves as the probate process. The assets listed are then allowed to be paid over to the beneficiaries, provided the institution you are working with will act under that order and turn over the asset.

As one Texas law firm (Ford & Mathiason of Dallas and Houston) says on their web page which has a discussion on this topic:
"Like some other methods of administering an estate that are very unique to Texas, the Small Estate Affidavit sometimes meets resistence from banks and financial institutions that are not familiar with Texas Probate laws. As a result, the use of the Small Estate Affidavit to attempt to claim bank accounts, brokerage accounts, and other financial accounts can sometimes fail, with the bank or institution requiring a full probate of the Estate."
See: http://www.fordmath.com/probate/alternatives.php

For reference, you might want to look at the "Small Estate Affidavit Checklist" at this site which is provided by the probate courts:
See: http://www.co.travis.tx.us/probate/pdfs/small_estate_affidavit_checklist.pdf

There is also a good presentation on the subject in this pamphlet published by the Legal Hotline for Texans, titled "How to Select the Appropriate Probate Procedure":
see: http://www.tlsc.org/lhot%20pubs/How%20to%20Select%20the%20Appropriate%20Probate%20Procedure.pdf


I hope this has been helpful. Let me know if you have any followup questions. If none, please remember to click on the ACCEPT link so that I may receive credit for working on this topic with you. (I'd greatly appreciate it!)


Thank you,

Dan

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234 days and 20 hours ago.

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My mistake I forgot to say this was for the State of Ohio. Work is very busy at this time and I totally forgot to mention that. My apologies.

 

Sincerely,

Laura J. Bortz

Posted by Dan 234 days and 16 hours ago.

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Laura - Not a problem.

We'll just look up the Ohio paperwork and take it from there! But on the way, it would help to have some additional information so that we are sure that we're focused in on the appropriate procedure, adn that you are actually allowed to use it.

Was your father an Ohio resident? Did he have a will? If so who gets his estate according to the terms of the will? If not (actually, either way), who are his 'next of kin' (who survived him)?

How much is the payoff value of the insurance? Has the insurance company confirmed that because the named beneficiary predeceased your father, the beneficiary by default becomes the estate?

Roughly, what is the value of everything that he owed at the time of his death (his total estate), regardless of how it transfers at death? DId he own a house? If so, roughly what value, and how will that transfer after his death? Roughly what debts did he have at the time of his death?

Get back to me with this when you are able, and we'll tackle this under the Ohio rules!

Thanks, Dan

234 days and 8 hours ago.

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No the house was sold in 2007 and I was told there was nothing of value left because it had been ransacked several times. He had lived in a Nursing home for 6 years and I have paid the only bill that was left and the lawyer he had paid anything else before I even found out he was dead. No one had even contacted me and if I hadn't called to talk to him a little over a month after he died I still would not know. But that's another story. I was told by the insurance company I had to fill out the Small Estate Affidavit and the house sold for less than $30,000. I am trying to get the money from the Insurance policy he had taken out for my Stepmother who died in 1987. That's why they told me I had to fill it out. Thank you for your help.

 

Sincerely,

Laura J. Bortz

Posted by Dan 233 days and 17 hours ago.

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Laura -

The form packet you should have received then is the Ohio "Release from Administration" forms. Because he was not survived by a surviving spouse, the form can be used only if "entire gross estate is less than $35,000.00". With no personal property or real estate remaining, and since his cash reserves were probably exhausted prior to the time he passed away, chances are the only asset he still had at time of death was this life insurance policy.

One huge concern that pops into my thought process is that if your father was in the nursing home that long, he probably was on the Title 19 (also called Medicaid or Medical assistance) program for at least a good portion of that time where the state was paying the nursing home costs. In that event, the state would have a claim against the estate for reimbursement of their expenses on dad's behalf in an amount that probably exceeds $35,000. Normally life insurance proceeds pass around that obligation when they pay directly to the named beneficiary, but because the beneficiary designation failed, the life insurance proceeds become an asset of his probate estate. I'm afraid that means that the life insurance proceeds will end up having to applied to offset the State of Ohio Medical Assistance 'estate recovery' claim, which will most likely consume the entire proceeds. If that is the case, you don't want to go through this process just to have to turn over all the money to the state and keep nothing for yourself or others in the family.

In fact, the existence of a State of Ohio claim against the estate (for reimbursement of nursing home expenses) may make dad's estate inelligable for the Release from Administration procedure. One of the requirements to utilize that procedure is that "The decedent’s creditors will not be prejudiced by approval of the application." If the use of the form causes money to be paid over to family that should have been paid over to the state, then the state as a creditor is definitely 'prejudiced' by the approval.

(As part of 'Release From Administration' procedure, a notice must be given to the Medical Assistance Estate Recovery Program administrator to tell them that there may be money available for them to claim. If dad was in the nursing home and on Medical Assistance benefits to pay those costs, the state will most likely have the priority when it comes to claiming the life insurance money.)

Here is a page on the court website on the requirements and procedures for using the 'Release from Administration' procedure:
see http://www.franklincountyohio.gov/probate/departments/release_admin.cfm#Long_Form

Before we look at how to complete the forms themselves, double check that the forms packet you are looking at is the Ohio Release from Procedure forms, and also confirm whether or not dad was on Medical Assistance benefits while he was in the nursing home.


I hope this has been helpful. Let me know if you have any followup questions. If none, please remember to click on the ACCEPT link so that I may receive credit for working on this topic with you. (I'd greatly appreciate it!)


Thank you,

Dan

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The information provided is general in nature only and shall not be construed as legal advice or to create an attorney-client relationship. You should always consult with a lawyer in your state.

PS: If an answer appears to you to have been very helpful, or to have taken above average expertise, and/or research, or if the answer shows an above average amount of time and dedication devoted to your issue, a bonus is nice way to say "Thank you". Thanks!


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