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My son’s 1988 735i (automatic) transmission developed a problem in the middle of a recent errand. The car has driven fine with no transmission slippage, etc. since purchase about 1000 miles ago. The car was placed into neutral at a stop light and when placed back into Drive, the car would not move forward. I have not attempted to troubleshoot the problem except to check ATF level and condition which are both normal. The car drives in reverse just fine but has no forward gears. Reversal stall speed (per the OEM tach) is within normal range (in forward, is like being in neutral).

I have not ruled out burned or broken wires from the control module and do not know how to test it.   We purchased the car with about 220K miles a few weeks ago and it has electrical issues. I have replaced both battery and alternator. Records show previous owner had fluids changed at recommended intervals. Please suggest most likely problems and recommended troubleshooting procedure. Thank you.

Submitted: 241 days and 22 hours ago.
Category: BMW
Value: $40
Status: CLOSED
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1988 BMW 735i

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ATF level and condition normal. REVERSE stall speed normal per shop manual. Forward stall speed engine races as if in neutral. Only fuse associated with transmission ckt per wiring diagram is F17 and is ok. Power to transmission control unit is a direct connection (not fused). Have NOT chased wires and confirmed that power supply to transmission control unit is normal, nor have I checked any wiring to transmission solenoids, etc. The problem developed in the middle of a trip to store while at a stop light, suggesting to me it is either electrical, stuck valve, or a catastrophic failure of some sort.

Posted by Steve 241 days and 22 hours ago.

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Hi skibum

To carry out any accurate diagnosis you will need a suitable diagnosis tester to check whats happening in the gearbox.If the oil level is ok and the car drives in reverse ok this could be a electrical issue or a transmission fault.

With a tester connected you need to look at the following items -

1.When the car is in drive does it display D in the kombi and also access the kombi functions via the tester and check if kombi is showing drive engaged.

2.check if all gear positions are shown correctly in kombi P,R,D,N ,1,2,3, and then with the tester the same again in the ecus for the gearbox,This ensures the transmission is being told what gear to select if this is all ok i would check again with the tester if a output speed is shown when in drive if not gearbox is not being driven.

If at any time in the testing you find the correct gear is not shown in the kombi this could be down to a faulty gear position switch which is mounted on the gear lever mechanism.

 

Regards Steve.

241 days and 22 hours ago.

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Unfortunately I do not have access to a diagnostic tester and "kombi" is Greek to me. When I place the selector in the various gears, the correct designator is showing up in the instrument cluster. Is there any way to verify what the transmission is being "told" by monitoring the output of the control module or solenoid inputs using a conventional DVM?

 

Is there anything to be gained by dropping the pan and checking condition of ATF filter, etc.? I note that the pump discharge pressure spec for reverse is almost double that of D...is it possible that the pump suction is partially clogged ? Or does the immediate nature of the failure point to electrical or position switch related issues?

 

One detail I failed to convey was that my son replaced the damaged shifter knob with an aftermarket unit (lacking the interlock button). I did not consider this as relevant information because the car operated just fine for several days with the replacement knob.

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Hi skibum

Sorry kombi stands for instrument cluster(German translation).

All you can test with a DVM at the ecu is the resistance of the solenoid valves but this it self sometimes not 100% test.

I would expect the car not to drive at all if the filter was blocked and when these filters block the normally cause a loud sucking type noise.

As for the new knob i would agree this should not cause you a issue as long as all gear positions are shown correctly in the instrument cluster as the interlock rod in the knob does set the travel in the lever for each gear position.

 

Regards Steve.

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