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My father-in-law has employed me for around 23 years. I've been making signs for him for the last 13 years at home. After a meeting at his office due to lack of projects, he gave me two options to consider. I went home and the next day,he called and said he changed his mind and was going to shut down his sign shop and fire me because he thought I will cause trouble with his daughter who is now in charge of the marketing dept. He said that he wants his company to run smoothly and if anyone causing friction, they will be gone. I have never had any friction with his daughter in law. We talk and visit at each family gathering. He also made a statement from one of his marketing dept which was totally false. I am innocent in these accusations. I don't think he is going to give me any severance package other than a month or two. Did he fire me unlawfully? Can I go to the labor board? Does it make a difference that he is my father in law? Thank you   Terry

Submitted: 312 days and 5 hours ago.
Category: Employment Law
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Nothing, other than looking up the labor laws on the internet which are not much help. My father in law is now back from vacation and I sent him an email stating that my time with pay is up on the 20th of Jan, and I need a decision then on the severance package of 1 year with benefits such as 401K so I can weigh other options. (the time stated above was for 30 days to do inventory list of the equipment and unused supplies).

Posted by EPLLAW 312 days and 5 hours ago.

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What state do you work in?

312 days and 5 hours ago.

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California

312 days and 4 hours ago.

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California

Posted by EPLLAW 311 days and 12 hours ago.

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I am not ignoring you, I would like an expert familiar with CA nuances to answer your question. As you know, CA if ahead of the rest of the country when it comes to state employment laws.


EPLLAW

311 days and 11 hours ago.

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What does that mean? You are passes this on to an employment lawyer in California? That is fine with me. Did I have to pay again since I will be emailing with someone else? Terry

Posted by EPLLAW 311 days and 10 hours ago.

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I'm sorry. I did not realize you had already paid. That being the case, let me research your issue tonight and I will have an answer for you in the morning. I can find the answer I just thought someone may have it readily available. Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

Stay tuned.

 

EPLLAW

311 days and 10 hours ago.

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I'm looking at this page and it says there has been a deposit made but I have to click on accept when your answer is acceptable, I think. So, right now a deposit is depending, so I assume that if I don't accept your answer, the money won't be finalized with a debit on the credit card. So, if you think I should find someone in California let me know and I won't click on the button. Is this how it works? Terry

Posted by EPLLAW 311 days and 10 hours ago.

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That is how it works. I will still do the work for you. If you are satisfied press accept. If not you can let someone else answer. If someone answers the question in an acceptable manner, go ahead and accept. It will not hurt my feelings. I want you to be happy with the service.

 

EPLLAW

311 days and 10 hours ago.

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Thanks, I will let you do the leg work if you want. Sorry this is a little harder for you. I thought the labor laws were more from the USA Govenment then the state but of course this could go beyond labor laws, maybe. Might think twice if I have to sue this 82year old man. I'm hoping the labor laws will take care of the situation and correct this error. Thank you and I will wait until I hear from you. If you want, you may send me a text message whenever you get an answer. my cell XXX-XXX-XXXX. Looking forward for an answer. Terry

Posted by EPLLAW 311 days and 10 hours ago.

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I cannot contact you directly. In this case both state and federal labor laws may apply. Very few states have labor laws but CA if the exception.

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Sorry, when I started filling out this form, I had the option of either getting an email or text messge on the phone notifiying me when the answer is in. I guess that is in the "Just Answer" software or program. No worries, I'll be back to the computer tomorrow to check your answer. Thank you so much for doing this. Terry

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Most employment relationships are considered “at-will,” where either party can terminate the employment at any time for any reason whatsoever. However, in California, “at-will” employment only applies in the absence of an employment contract. If the parties have a contract, the terms of the contract apply. A contract can be formed in a variety of ways. The parties may have oral discussions that include promises to perform, or representations may be made during training or in policy manuals. Additionally, even if employment is considered “at-will,” a person may not be terminated in violation of state or federal employment law.

The term "wrongful termination" means that an employer has fired or laid off an employee for illegal reasons in the eyes of the law. Illegal reasons for termination include:

Firing in violation of federal and state anti-discrimination laws;
Firing as a form of sexual harassment;
Firing in violation of oral and written employment agreements;
Firing in violation of labor laws, including collective bargaining laws; and
Firing in retaliation for the employee's having filed a complaint or claim against the employer.

Some of these violations carry statutory penalties, while others will result in the employer's payment of damages based on the terminated employee's lost wages and other expenses. Certain wrongful termination cases may raise the possibility that the employer pay punitive damages to the terminated employee, while other cases may carry the prospect of holding more than one wrongdoer responsible for damages.

Do you believe your father-in-laws motives are discriminatory on the basis of race, religion, etc. Probably not so the question is did you have any kind of employment contract, written or otherwise?

Since you are dealing with your father-in-law you will probably be hard pressed to find someone interested in getting involved in you family dispute. If he completely closes down the shop you may have some protection under the WARN Act but generally this protection only applies to larger employers, 100 or more.

Feel free to follow up with additional questions

EPLLAW

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