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we have had two male parakeets (hans& fritz) for almost a year. for the last week or so one of them (hanz) is moving his beak as if he's chewing on something, though he's not. he is eating & singing/speaking as usual, but it looks to me like his constant beak & tongue movement is uncomfortable. tonight i noticed that hanz's beak is green in color & bluish on the top portion, while fritz (who seems the same as usual) has his yellow beak with a purplish top. we left our birds with neighbors two weeks ago who also have two parakeets--our birds were in cages next to one another but did not interact directly. i've noticed the problem since we've been back. also, we've branches from local trees in their cage for months--hanz seems to be chewing on them a great deal (the bark is off now & he's eating on the inner portion). don't know if this impacts anything but thought i'd mention it. any thoughts on what's going on? thank you!

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Age: 1; Male; Breed: parakeet

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Posted by S. August Abbott, CAS 414 days ago.

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Can you trace this back to either shortly after the time they stayed with the neighbors or when they (Hanz) started to eat the perch?

What type of tree is the perch from?

What kind of food do they eat? Any fresh foods they have regularly?

413 days and 14 hours ago.

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The symptoms seem to have started after they came back from the neighbors. Our birds stayed in their cage, their birds were in their cage, & the cages hung about 1 foot from each other. I thought perhaps something airborne, but Fritz has no symptoms (so far).

We don't know what tree the branch is from, but they have had it in their cage for 6 months or so. However, they have recently taken all the bark off & the white part is exposed. I'll take that out today.

They eat only parakeet food from the store--right now it's Bonanza Parakeet Gourmet Diet. I give them millet every week or so. I tried fresh veggies, fruit, cornbread that I read were ok for them, but they never seemed to like any of them.

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There are a few things that may be going on here and perhaps the most benign (and simplest) is a change that is often noticed when a bird (especially a male) reaches sexual maturity. Though often described as having a rougher, darker colored cere, sometimes beaks seem to take on a different hue.

Now, let's go over a few other possibilities:


It could be a symptom of liver disease. With a mostly seed diet it's not at all uncommon (tumors are seen much more in budgies on mostly seeds too).

Some other possibilities are a certain kind of mite, or virus, vitamin/mineral deficiencies (in keeping with nutritional problems usually associated with a seed only diet, or primarily soft food diet, among others). Sometimes it’s a serious disease such as PBFD (psittacine beak and feather disease).


When you notice other changes of concern with your bird’s beak, especially combined with acting ‘off’, feathers looking ragged, dull or losses, eye and/or nare discharge (any one of these would be enough to raise concerns) there is reason to find a vet who can begin screening for PBFD (psittacine beak and feather disease), which is probably the worst news any owner might get. It’s also not necessarily a high possibility.



It’s just one that needs consideration.


Aspergillus, Candida and a variety of bacteria are also possible



Beak grinding is a behavior that a content bird will engage in, often looking the bird is chewing when they’re not or to some people it seems the bird is trying to mouth words. Some birds will make very loud grinding sounds, others will barely be audible.

Many regular DVM's will have the experience necessary to see them - so call your local Humane Society, any animal rescue facility, ASPCA, pet shops and breeders, ask who they use.


Find an avian vet near you http://aav.org/vet-lookup


It’s generally recommended that most of today’s companion birds have a predominantly pelleted diet. Pellets have been continually updated since being introduced to the market years ago and today’s formulas are better than ever.

Supplementing this diet with fresh foods every day is ideal and many owners find they can re-introduce seeds - in limited amounts (perhaps once or twice a week) without the bird refusing the pellets overall.

Whole grains, dark leafy vegetables, fruits and legumes. Include the colors orange, yellow , green, plus reds too! Think sweet potatoes/yams, squash, melons, oranges, peas, chard, beets and others.


Brown rice, quinoa, whole wheat couscous and natural, whole grain pastas are great choices.



Limit fats, especially the kind from animals. Good fats are most plant fats like soy, olive and canola oils. No fried anything

Even though this is put out by a cockatiel site, it’s applicable to all hook bills from budgies/parakeets to conures, greys and macaws.


http://www.cockatiels.org/articles/nutrition/diet.html cites feeding both seed and pellets, but only after weaning the bird from a mostly seed diet.


http://www.letstalkbirds.com/cockatiels.htm

As for the perch, I'd remove it just to be sure.



A natural wood perch, such as manzanita, many fruit/nut trees and so on are excellent for their uneven consistency and natural grip.


Since so many trees are treated or sprayed, may harbor unseen insects, etc., we really suggest purchasing from a reputable, professional source.


If, however, you want to use your own, make sure it’s scrubbed with a firm bristle brush, in a solution of 1 part bleach to 10 parts water - then scrubbed again with a rinse water at least three times.


Leave the branch in full sun to dry, or bake it in a 200-250 oven x 30 minutes. Don’t install it until the next day.



Hopefully these changes (and a vet check up) will make a big difference and give you peace of mind while helping insure a nice, healthy, long life for your companions.

Good luck and keep up the good work!




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413 days and 5 hours ago.

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Thanks! Very helpful info. It was reassuring to see your picture online. I assume I go to one of the bird websites for more info on candida, etc?
FYI, I took the branch out of the cage right after i emailed you, & Hans is already doing much better. I think it was the inner part of the branch.
I'll print all this info for future use. Thanks again!

Posted by S. August Abbott, CAS 413 days and 5 hours ago.

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Hang on and I'll give you more on candida and that. You don't have to press accept again (it's a follow up, I'm happy to do it).

Posted by S. August Abbott, CAS 413 days and 5 hours ago.

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Candidiasis (Candida Albicans) is typically present in all birds’ digestive system. When it grows beyond normal limits it causes problems not necessarily limited to the digestive system (including the mouth and crop), but can effect the organs, beak, feathers, reproductive and respiratory systems.


Candidiasis is much more prevalent in non-parrot species, however if your bird has experienced delayed crop emptying, a predominantly seed diet (possible vitamin A deficiency), has had stress or other infections/health problems, or has recently been on antibiotics – chances are increased for an occurrence of Candidiasis.


Sometimes just the mouth will be symptomatic, giving off an odor or showing plaques (white, raised patches), and often a thick (clear or cloudy) material in their mouth.



Some birds will frequently regurgitate, go off their food and not act right overall. There may also be nasal discharge, voice change or breathing changes (labored breathing after activities).


Candidiasis is not uncommon in hand fed chicks, so many breeders are now adding grapefruit seed extract to formulas in order to avoid the problem.


In adult birds I strongly recommend vet intervention rather than taking any chances with home remedies that may only give the yeast time to grow and spread.


There’s more about Candidiasis here:


http://www.avianweb.com/candida.html



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