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Why has my hand reared 3yr old black capped conure started being very distant towards me. He has good health & is let out every day but no longer wants to follow me everywhere or play with anything. He was an only'child' & taken at 3weeks old to be hand reared.

Submitted: 413 days and 23 hours ago.
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Age: 3; Male; Breed: black capped conure

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Offering treats, usually nuts. Ignoring him when he turns his back as I approach.I never shout at him.I just say 'good boy' when he takes a 'treat'!

Posted by S. August Abbott, CAS 413 days and 16 hours ago.

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How long has he been acting differently like this?

How are his droppings? His appetite? Any other different behaviors?

413 days and 1 hours ago.

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Droppings & appetite are normal. He's not nasty when he does take a treat from me he is very gentle, even taking shelled sun flower seeds ( they're mine from health food store as are the various nuts he likes) from my lips gently too. Sometimes when I offer a nut he decides he wants a differerent one so he'll throw it, squeaking at me to tell me so. The only other thing I can think of is that when I first had him I already had a 3yr old male budgie. Last year at around 5yrs old he sadly passed. I thought in the beginning that the budgie would resent the conure but in fact he adored him, showed him the ropes, so to speak, where to land when out to play & followed him everywhere even though the conure tried to chase him away. On times the budgie would regurgitate when the conure asked. It was so funny. Being a 'big' talker the budgie would say 'don't bite thats not nice' & 'you're such a greedy boy'. Maybe it all stems from that time.He's also a fairly quiet bird-except when the vacuum cleaner is on or he sees a neighbour walking past.Neither is he destructive which is unusual. My son comes to see me every week & he loves him. Considering he was so tame & cuddly at first & I was still hand feeding him for the 1st. couple of weeks, it's a mystery to me. I've had a cockatiel & a maroon bellied conure in the past, neither hand reared, & they were fabulous. Unfortunately my then husband didn't like the noise & 'pursueded me to give them away! He left 6yrs ago so now I don't have that problem! Being an only chick he doesn't seem to react to a mirror or pictures of other conures 'though he does like sitting on the rope in the window looking at the wild birds. The bigger birds like crows, magpies & pidgeons tend to 'spook' him which I hadn't experienced with others. I would love to cuddle him but he doesn't like to be held though he likes to sit on the arm of the chair & will back into my hand for a tickle occasionally. He's also ok when in his cage & I change his feeders & doesn't try to escape.( the budgie was very territorial over his cage & gave a sharp nip to tell me 'this is my space!') Just remembered something else. At around 1yr old he became very aggressive & against my principles I had his wings clipped. Just enough so that he could still fly but not for long. It took a few months before the aggression stopped & I've never had his wings clipped again. Sorry this is so long but the more info you have to go on I thought may help you see the picture & draw some conclusions.

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It appears we're in different time zones doesn't it?

You might be surprised at what this could be. When you mention you offer him sunflower seeds, the behavior suddenly coincides with many health conditions that will result from having too many seeds (of any kind) in their diet.

If your budgie was on a predominantly seed diet, it may have been the reason behind their untimely demise.


Did you know that quality seed, which I'm sure you feed, should only make up about 15% of the overall diet? And that millet, if ever offered, shouldn't amount to more than the size of your thumb - per week! More surprising is that the ideal amount of sunflower seeds for any bird is - zero.


So much information is flooding the net these days about what to feed a companion bird, whether a budgie/parakeet, cockatiel or marvelous macaw, it’s sometimes difficult to wade through the junk science, old wives tales, well meaning owner advice or just plain dangerous suggestions.

The reason we see so many sunflower seeds in birdy mixes is because they're cheap and they're fillers. Most manufacturers don't care about our birds' health, in spite of what they might say. If they lose one customer, there's a thousand more. Birds are one of the fast growing pet trades in the world.

Just in case you're wondering, the vitamins from pet stores can sometimes cause more problems than they solve. I really wish they weren’t allowed to sell them (or the supposed antibiotics or sprays or mite protectors).


It’s generally recommended that most of today’s companion birds have a predominantly pelleted diet. Pellets have been continually updated since being introduced to the market years ago and today’s formulas are better than ever.


Supplementing this diet with fresh foods every day is ideal and many owners find they can re-introduce seeds - in limited amounts (perhaps once or twice a week) without the bird refusing the pellets overall.

Instead of sunflower seeds, try pumpkin seeds or sugar peas/snap beans, slices of banana, carrots, etc..

Another thing I should mention is that Aspergillosis is the number one most common fungal infection in birds because it's just about everywhere. One of the main sources though is peanuts. Even the best human grade peanuts can have this fungus. In normal, healthy humans it's not a problem; in birds, that in nature do not eat peanuts (they grow underground), it can be a lethal problem.


Better choices:


Whole grains, dark leafy vegetables, fruits and legumes. Include the colors orange, yellow , green, plus reds too! Think sweet potatoes/yams, squash, melons, oranges, peas, chard, beets and others.



Brown rice, quinoa, whole wheat couscous and natural, whole grain pastas are great choices.


Limit fats, especially the kind from animals. Good fats are most plant fats like soy, olive and canola oils. No fried anything


Even though this is put out by a cockatiel site, it’s applicable to all hook bills from budgies/parakeets to conures, greys and macaws.

http://www.cockatiels.org/articles/nutrition/diet.html cites feeding both seed and pellets, but only after weaning the bird from a mostly seed diet.


http://www.letstalkbirds.com/cockatiels.htm

Here is more on ideal nutritional needs:


The American Cockatiel Society (not just for ‘tiels, it’s for all hookbills) http://www.acstiels.com/Articles/BasicCare/cockatie.htm


The Bird Care Library at Harmony Animal Hospital http://www.petvets.com/petcare/birds.html#nutrition


For some recipes to make that both humans and birds can enjoy, check the bottom of this page www.4AnimalCare/birds

It appears that you've noticed the most subtle of changes quite early with your bird and chances are good that you can stave off complications due to diet.

Once he's feeling better you should notice his behavior is better. I really think you'll be very surprised.

Until then, it sounds you are doing a wonderful job. I like the gentle interaction and how patient you are. Understanding the psychology of the bird is equally as important as understanding the physical aspect.

Positive reinforcement counts in your favor. I wish everyone would learn that 'disciplining' a bird is non productive except to make bad habits even worse and encourage a relationship of fear and distrust. Birds aren't dogs - and it's very hard to get that through to some people. (Not that disciplining a dog works either, but you know what I mean).

So I'm very sincere when I encourage you to keep up the good work.


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Expert: S. August Abbott, CAS
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412 days and 2 hours ago.

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Thanks for your advice. I do offer a variety of fruit & veg as well as a little seed & pellets. No vitamins or chemicals used.I steam clean the cage, toys & feeders. As well as bathing, anywhere he can, kitchen showerspray, bathroom tub or sink.

He also likes the steam, naturally from a distance. I think he must have an Identity problem. Having no siblings & taken from the nest to be hand fed at 3wks. he doesn't react to his image in a mirror or or sounds of other conures. I got him at just over 7wks & spoon fed him for a further 2wks or so. A bit late I know, but he's also started to talk, wolf whistle & mimic the kitchen timer & computer clicks. He's really sweet but just wants to be alone when out of his cage. When he's not out he shouts for re assurance that I'm around! He's ok with visitors & likes check them out. He aso acts as alookout, shouting to let me know. He's hardly ever alone as I'm a housebound pensioner so he gets plenty of attention! Thanks again.

Posted by S. August Abbott, CAS 411 days and 20 hours ago.

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Birds bond by 'imprinting'. Sort of like taking a photo and engraving it into their brain. Whenever they see that animal (be it another bird or a human) they look to it for guidance, support and life's lessons. So you're it - the flockmate - his identity.

We humans tend to see things from our human perspective (complicated, 'deep') and with our other animal companions it's a lot siimpler.

That bond works both ways too. Let go of the human analysis of things and trying to explain behaviors that don't happen in our human world. Trust your bird instincts.

You know something's not right with this little chatterbox - and that's all that matters.

Many vets make housecalls these days (the economy demands that they go the extra mile) and the charges aren't usually prohibitive - maybe $20 more than an office call?

In any event, it would provide peace of mind right? Have a swabbing and culture done to be sure there's no infection anywhere.

Since we don't have to do this very often, figuring the cost divided by 12 to 24 or more months, it's really pretty low maintenance to stay on top of things for birds.

You are doing such a good job -- it's a pleasure to hear from you and know that this lucky bird has you.

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