JustAnswer > Bird
Ask A Question|Register|Login|Help
JustAnswer

Bird

Ask a Bird Question, Get an Answer ASAP!

Have your own Bird question?

7 Vets and Bird Experts are Online Now
characters left:
Not a Bird Question?

Related Bird Topics:

  • Cut
  • ,
  • Eat
  • ,
  • Eye
  • ,
  • Low
  • ,
  • Mix
  • ,
  • Vet
  • ,
  • Two
  • ,
  • Wet
  • ,
  • Baby
  • ,
  • Bird
Bookmark and Share

Question

He was out sitting on me this afternoon, then after putting him away, I noticed three droppings on me that were stringy, light green and slightly wet. Usually he has the normal big white and green mass. Is this something I need to look into?

Submitted: 420 days and 10 hours ago.
Category: Bird
Value: $9
Status: CLOSED
+
Read More

Optional Information

Age: 7; Male; Breed: cockatiel

Already Tried:
Nothing, however, I did change his and the other cockatiels diet a few weeks ago. Rather than just seed, it is the "complete" diet that includes fruits and veggies. Also, I was on vacation last week for a week and my daughter came every other day. He "knows" her but would not come out to her until the day before I came home. Don't know if this has anything to do with it or not?

Posted by S. August Abbott, CAS 420 days and 9 hours ago.

Info Request

The center was still relatively distinguishable? A rope like section of green or brownish green?

Is this 'complete' diet a pellet diet?

420 days and 9 hours ago.

Reply

<p>It is cockatiel blend with Ester E, a mix of seeds, nuts, fruits and vegetables, it says. BTW, he seems to be in good spirits. He is singing and irritating my female bird like he usually does.</p><p>It was just a light green, like a lima sort of. I did not see the middle</p>

Posted by S. August Abbott, CAS 420 days and 9 hours ago.

Answer

I think you're right in attributing this to a food change. Since you're pursuing a better nutritional regimen, I would suggest a pellet diet. There are far fewer health problems overall in bird on pellets and you don't have to worry about fortifying or adding anything.

A diet consisting mostly of pelleted food supplemented with fresh fruits, vegetables, grains and a good seed mix that does not include sunflower seeds, is your parrot’s best choice.

It’s not easy for some birds to make the conversion, but quite often that’s because their owner is too easily swayed by their demands and fear that the bird isn’t going to eat at all if they don’t get their junk food.

When I take in rescues, one of the most common problems is nutrition. The birds are either terribly underweight or obese. Changing their diet is often a matter of life or death and I haven’t lost anyone to date.

I’ll try every type of pellet out there, whether fruity or plain, spicy or a combination – just be sure to get the size & type appropriate for your individual bird.

Offer a pellet from your fingers as a treat (if your bird is used to taking treats from your fingers that is) and go ahead and try one yourself so the bird can see. I’m serious – try it yourself. Your bird shouldn’t be expected to eat anything that you wouldn’t eat yourself.

I’ve mixed pellets in with cereal too, especially a good, healthy, low sugar type. Try crushing them into an all natural yogurt or baby food of mixed vegetables, sweet potatoes, squash or the like. One of our macaws started to love them when she found them in with her blueberries and other cut up fruit.

I’ve found it’s not a good idea to mix the pellets in with the seeds, but be creative otherwise.

One warning is that if you mix the pellets in with anything wet or even make a ‘mush’ out of the pellets using plain water, a natural, low sugar fruit juice – you must remove the dish (must!) after an hour or two, tops. There’s too much chance for bacterial growth in wet foods and this only makes a problem worse.

While making the conversion you need to monitor your bird very carefully. I strongly suggest getting regular weights.

A gram scale is one of the best investments a bird owner can make since many illnesses are not noticed until pretty far along. With a regular weight monitoring, you’ll know when a weight loss (or gain) trend occurs and may be able to stave off serious problems by catching them early.

I weigh everyone every Saturday morning, right after a dropping. They’ve come to expect it and happily step up on the scale when it’s their turn.

For more ideas and options at conversion, take a look at these links. There are as many ‘right ways’ as there are individuals.

http://www.avi-sci.com/converting.htm

http://www.cockatiels.org/articles/nutrition/convert.html

http://birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww44eiii.htm

http://www.tailfeathersnetwork.com/birdinformation/convertingdiet.php


When it comes to the droppings:


All bird droppings are made up of three parts: Faeces (feces), the solid, central part which can vary in color depending on the food the bird eats.


Urates, the next layer of the ring, which can be cloudy-clear or with shades of white, yellows and greens, again depending on the foods eaten.


Urine is the clear liquid, usually outer layer of the ring. Depending on the amount of fruits and fluids the bird eats/drinks, this can be a significant part of the dropping.

Human companions to birds need to learn what’s normal for their bird. When the bird is healthy, acting fine and eating a well balanced diet, there’s a general look to the droppings that may vary depending on the time of day, but are usually similar looking.

If a bird eats beets one day, the droppings may look frighteningly reddish. Sometimes when the bird eats more dark leafy greens (or blueberries), the droppings can assume a nearly black hue.

When a bird is on a largely seed diet, the feces may be any shade of bright green; pelleted diets without added food colorings would produce a dull, brownish-green. If the bird is eating colored pellets, the droppings may reflect what colors are most often chosen.

Again, I believe what you're seeing is a temporary result of the new food, but yes, keep a close eye on it. If they persist at being unusually formed like this, it's well worth finding a vet who will at least check a sample you bring in (ideally, bring the bird too of course).

One day of abnormal droppings (usually appearing too loose or liquid) is not typically an emergency. As long as the bird is still eating, drinking and acting normally, there’s no change in vocalizations, there is no feather fluffing (looking bigger), staying at the bottom of the cage or excessive sleeping - sometimes a change in droppings is little more than something that will last a few hours and be fine.

You're doing a fine job - it's obvious you love this little guy!


420 days and 9 hours ago.

Reply

Thank you! I have only had birds for about 2 1/2 yrs so I don't know a lot about them still but I am learning. Ms Bird was my first, then Homer, the one I have been telling you about. He wants to be only with me so when I got another male, Petey, Homer got his own cage and is very happy with that. Petey is totally in love with Ms Bird so it worked out well. As you can tell, Homer is my little buddy so I needed to be sure he was ok. Thank you again for your help!
Jean

Accepted Answer

"Only" 2 1/2 years makes you more of an old hand than you might think

You might be very surprised at how much you know and I'd expect that it's good information because it sounds like this flock is thriving. And that you are paying attention to droppings, plus trying to adjust nutrition to be the very best possible, that speaks volumes about what you know.

Give yourself more credit - you really are doing a good job.

Separate cages are also a very wise decision. Not just for their emotional health, but to avoid any injuries that territorialism and hormones might lend to.

Check back anytime Jean - You don't have to press 'accept' again on this question. I'm happy to follow up with you and your flock

Picture
Expert: S. August Abbott, CAS
Pos. Feedback: 99.6 %
Accepts: 
Answered: 9/28/2008

Certified Avian Specialist

Cert. Avian Specialist; Int. Assoc.Animal Behavior Consult; Pet Ind. Joint Advisory Council; author

419 days and 13 hours ago.

Reply

Sorry for the delay. My computer had issues. Thank you SO much. I will watch Homer carefully, but for now, he does seem to be fine despite his bowel issue. He would not eat the fruit part of the mix at first but now, since I won't give him anymore than one serving a day, he is eating EVERYTHING, not just the seeds. He looks great!

Again, thank you for your help!

Jean

+
Read More

Related Bird Questions

  • Can parakeets transmit diseases to humans?
  • I have a male cockatiel (30 yrs old) who has been vomiting
  • Our umbrella cockatoo has, we think picked sores on his side...
  • i have 2 french marans(chickens ) that have both eyes swolle...
  • My English budgie seems to have lost his equilibrium and pan...
  • my african grey female 5 years old was given to us at SLWVH.
  • hi i brought a marooned bellied conure a few weeks ago and
  • I have young hens and two off them have gone blind can you



Disclaimer: Information in questions, answers, and other posts on this site ("Posts") comes from individual users, not JustAnswer; JustAnswer is not responsible for Posts. Posts are for general information, are not intended to substitute for informed professional advice (medical, legal, veterinary, financial, etc.), or to establish a professional-client relationship. The site and services are provided "as is" with no warranty or representations by JustAnswer regarding the qualifications of Experts. To see what credentials have been verified by a third-party service, please click on the "Verified" symbol in some Experts' profiles. JustAnswer is not intended or designed for EMERGENCY questions which should be directed immediately by telephone or in-person to qualified professionals.
Question List | Become an Expert | Terms of Service | Security & Privacy | About Us
© 2003-2009 JustAnswer Corp.