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I''ve got a 10 month Saint Bernard who hasn''t been eating much the last 2 days, he hasn''t had diahhria or been vomiting. I took him to the vet and they tell me he has parvo based soley on low white blood count. They hook him up to IV''s and tell me its gonna cost around $900. I have heard of tamiflu and asked them about it but they tell me it doesnt work. does this sound correct? please help thank you

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Posted by Dr.Fiona 480 days and 10 hours ago.

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Hi there tinebend83,

Welcome to Just Answer! I'm so sorry that your St.Bernard pup is sick... poor guy! I would like to help you with this question, but need a bit more information, please.

Has he been vaccinated? If yes, how many times has he had his DAPP (distemper combo) vaccine?

Did your vet suggest doing a blood test or fecal test for Parvo?

Fiona

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Yes he was vacc at 3 1/2 months. and i believe had his distemper twice. I have not yet spoke again with the vet yet. thanks

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Hmmm...

Let me explain a bit more about Parvo virus and Tamiflu....

Parvo virus is a highly contagious virus that causes vomiting and diarrhea, often with blood, in puppies. It causes severe dehydration, and untreated often results in death. Usually, it would take a couple of days of untreated vomiting and diarrhea before the puppy died.

Puppies are routinely vaccinated for Parvo virus as part of their regular vaccines. These are usually given at 8, 12 and 16 weeks.

Once fully vaccinated, there is a virtually zero chance of a dog getting Parvo virus.

Some breeds are more susceptible to Parvo - this means that they get sicker and take longer to recover than other breeds. The susceptible breeds are Rottweillers, Dobermans and Labrador Retrievers.

Here are links to more information:

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&S=0&C=0&A=580

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&cat=1556&articleid=467

Now, with your St.Bernard, if he has had 2 distemper vaccines, he may have partial immunity. We usually give the distemper combo vaccine 3 times to get full immunity. Part of this vaccine is for Parvo virus.

I will quote here from a veterinarian who specializes in treating critically ill patients, Beth Davidow DVM DACVECC at
Animal Critical Care and Emergency Services in Seattle, WA (http://www.criticalcarevets.com/)

Canine Parvoviral Enteritis: A Review of Diagnosis, Management, and Prevention

J Vet Emerg Crit Care 14[3]:167-176 Sep'04 Review Article 49 Refs

Jennifer Prittie, DVM, DACVIM (Internal Medicine), DACVECC
The Animal Medical Center, Bobst Hospital, 510 East 62nd Street, New York, NY 10021. Fax: (XXX) XXX-XXXX; E-mail: jennifer.prittie@amcnyorg

OBJECTIVE: To review and summarize current information regarding epidemiology, risk factors, and pathophysiology associated with canine parvoviral infection, and to outline diagnostic and treatment modalities for this disease. Preventative and vaccination strategies will also be discussed, as serologic documentation of immunocompetence and adoption of safe and effective vaccination protocols are crucial in limiting infection and spread of canine parvoviral enteritis.

ETIOLOGY: Parvoviruses (Parvoviridae) are small, nonenveloped, single-stranded DNA viruses that replicate in rapidly dividing cells. Canine parvovirus 2 (CPV-2) remains a significant worldwide canine pathogen and the most common cause of viral enteritis in this species.

DIAGNOSIS: Classic presentation of CPV infection includes acute-onset enteritis, fever, and leukopenia. Definitive diagnostic tests include detection of CPV in the feces of affected dogs, serology, and necropsy with histopathology.

THERAPY: Standard therapeutic practices for both mildly and severely affected puppies will be discussed. The ability of this virus to incite not only local gastrointestinal injury, but also a significant systemic inflammatory response has recently been reviewed in the literature, and novel innovative experimental and clinical therapeutic strategies, such as antagonism of proinflammatory cytokines and immunostimulation, are introduced in this article.

PROGNOSIS: CPV remains a significant worldwide canine pathogen. In experimentally affected dogs, mortality without treatment has been reported as high as 91%. However, with prompt recognition of dogs infected with CPV-2, and aggressive in-hospital supportive therapy of severely affected puppies, survival rates may approach 80-95%.

From personal experience, I do think that very small and very young patients have a worse prognosis. I seem to remember reading that WBC < 1000 are also a poor prognostic indicator but I can't find the website at the moment.

Now, that all said, there are some exciting reports of vastly improved survival rates with the early use of Tamiflu (used in human influenza cases) in dogs with Parvo. Tamiflu is made by Roche and the drug is oseltamivir phosphate. It is available to veterinarians. The dose used is 1mg/lb...that dose given AM/PM for 5 days along with the antibiotics and oral electrolytes and fluids. This use has not been studied by Roche and is considered "off label" use of the drug since is has not been approved for this use. However, it is widely use in veterinary medicine for treating Parvo and has dramatically improved survival rates. It can be expensive for a dog this size (maybe about $200).

If your vet has not suggested this, I urge you to mention it to him immediately!

So, in summary, Parvo is s virus that causes vomiting and diarrhea. It can be diagnosed with a fecal or blood test. It is treated with fluids and supportive care (antibiotics, anti-nausea medications, and electrolytes). With the addition of Tamiflu to the treatment protocol, patients often recover more quickly.

Please do let me know how he does (you can reply to this thread at any time, even after accepting an answer).

If this has been helpful, please accept my answer and leave feedback. I will still be here to provide more information if you need it!

Best wishes to you and your St.Bernard!

Fiona

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