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I took my Dalmation to a vet to have a "sore" looked at on the inside of his thigh.. keep in mind this "bump" has been there for a while (we rescued the guy about 8 weeks ago...) He tested positive for tick fever, we had him neutered about two weeks ago, and he is licking at the spot which is also near his privates when lying down.. anyways.. he has been licking and chewing and it started to bleed.. I am told it could be as simple as a blood blister or hemangeosarcoma and he'll be dead within months... is this something common with Dals?? Noe sure what to do!

Edited by XXXXXXXXXX on 6/25/2008 at 12:08 AM

Submitted: 515 days and 5 hours ago.
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Age: 5; Male; Breed: Dalmation

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Hi there XXXXXXXXXX,

Thank you for your question regarding your 5 year old Dalmation and the bleeding spot near his privates. This is an interesting case and in short, no it is not common for Dalmations to get dermal lesions like this. There are a number of things that could be going on here. If this is a raised, firm dermal mass, you should really be getting your Vet to take a biopsy of this lump to send to the pathologists in order to find out exactly what it is. If it is a bloody looking lump it could be anything from a Haemangioma (blood blister), histiocytoma and only VERY rarely something like a dermal haemangiosarcoma. A biopsy would tell you for sure what exactly this lump IS which will be of so much help to both the Veterinarian in order to know how to best deal with the lump and for you to give you some peace of mind. If this is a dermal (skin) mass, it is quite important to get an exact diagnosis as to what exactly it is - it could be a range of different lumps that can be either benign of malignant.

If on the other hand this is a flat bit of skin that has been ulcerated and has been bleeding on and off - and there doesn't appear to be a raised area under the skin, then there are other diagnostics that should be undertaken. Possibilities for a nonraised ulcerated area of skin include a pyoderma and/or folliculitis (skin infection), ringworm, trauma that is not healing or even skin parasites. A skin scrape would be userful to rule out skin parasites and if an infection was suspected your Vet should carry out a skin aerobic culture and sensitivity to find out the exact bug present in the wound in order to treat it appropriately. If this seems to be neither of these things, again a skin biopsy and histopathology would be very helpful to obtain an exact diagnosis. It will also be important to ensure that this lump is not related to his recent neutering surgery as the surgical site can oftentimes get infected and ulcerated if excessively licked (dogs tend to lick excessively if their sutures are placed too tightly)

You may want a second opinion at a different clinic if you haven't been having much luck with your Vet and this lesion. As I say, it could well be a large number of different problems ranging from skin parasites, to a dermal mass to even an allergic or endocrinological condition - and this is why making an exact diagnosis will be so important for your little boy. Don't panic about the scare mongering about cancer as from what you have told me, no one has actually diagnosed anything yet - in fact it sounds like an incorrect diagnosis was made to begin with!

Best of luck following this up with your Vet, a second opinion vet or even a Veterinary Dermatological Specialist.

Thank you and please now click ACCEPT.

Kind Regards,

Dr M D Edwards

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515 days and 4 hours ago.

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The lump is actually on the inside of his thigh... This is the third Dal we have had and our last had one similar to this on her snout that would break open and bleed if she scratched at her nose... It appears to be on the surface and not attached to anything under the skin.. I know that they have to give worst case scenerio, but it seemed to me that to say it was either one or the other is a big what if... My fear of knowing is that it is is cancer, we won't treat since all I have read is that the life expectancy with treatment would only be up to six months anyways.. so if I leave it untreated and he lives forever safe to say it was nothing? It's just such a hard decision to make, since removing it and having it tested is so costly... How long can I let it go before I do something about it???

Posted by Dr M D Edwards 515 days and 4 hours ago.

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Hi again XXXXXXXXXX,

Thanks for the further info - I'm sorry to hear about your other Dalmation, that is no good :( To be completely honest, this is all still just speculation. Your Vet hasn't actually made a dianosis, and although it could well be a haemangiosarcoma (dermal) which does have a poor prognosis - these are very rare and a haemangioma (benign) is much more likely. I know it is pricey to get a biopsy done, but I really think you should be getting this done now to give you peace of mind and give your dog a chance if it is something nasty. Even if a biopsy is too pricey for you - please ask your Vet to at LEAST do a FNA or Fine Needle Aspirate Biopsy which is basically a procedure where you Vet takes a few cells from the lump with a needle and syringe before looking at the cells under a microscope - or preferably sending the slide to a Vet pathologist to look at under a microscope. 9 times out of 10 they will be able to tell whether this is one or the other - haemangioma or haemangiosarcoma OR it may in fact be NEITHER! I do understand your reluctance to want to know the diagnosis in fear that it might not be good news, but this is the fairest thing to do for your dog.

Please keep me updated and do ask your Vet to do one or the two sorts of biopsies when you can.

Dr Edwards

Posted by Dr M D Edwards 515 days and 4 hours ago.

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Kind Regards,

Dr M D Edwards

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