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if i put my estate into charitable remainder unitrust can creditors get income or attach income from trust ?

Submitted: 678 days and 5 hours ago.
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columbus, Ohio

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They can try. But if your state exempts pension benefits (and most do), it is arguable that the fixed percentage of the payout you receive would be exempt from execution.

Expert: Winston Mortain
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677 days and 14 hours ago.

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Reply to Winston Mortain's Post: I LIVE IN BOTH OHIO AND FLORIDA - CHARITABLE REMAINDER WAS SET UP IN OHIO YET AM OFFICIALLY FLORIDA RESIDENT 64 YEARS OF AGE - DOES THIS MAKE DIFFERENCE - JOHN

Posted by Winston Mortain 677 days and 13 hours ago.

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Who is the trustee and what is his/her/it's residence or place of business? The law of that place would probably determine the exemption.

677 days and 6 hours ago.

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Reply to Winston Mortain's Post: I AM TRUSTEE & FLORIDA RESIDENT   AGE: 64
WANT TO PROTECT ASSETS FOR FUTURE RETIREMENT
UNCERTAIN ABOUT TODAY'S ECONOMY
HAVE DEBT FREE PROPERTIES WANT TO PUT IN
DON'T WANT BANKS/LAWSUIT TO COME AFTER ASSETS
ULTIMATELY EVERYTHING GOES TO CHARITY (KIDS)
TRUST CREATED IN OHIO MID - 80'S

Posted by Winston Mortain 676 days and 14 hours ago.

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Here is the pertinent Florida statute:

"222.21 Exemption of pension money and certain tax-exempt funds or accounts from legal processes.--

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(2)(a) Except as provided in paragraph (d), any money or other assets payable to an owner, a participant, or a beneficiary from, or any interest of any owner, participant, or beneficiary in, a fund or account is exempt from all claims of creditors of the owner, beneficiary, or participant if the fund or account is:

1. Maintained in accordance with a master plan, volume submitter plan, prototype plan, or any other plan or governing instrument that has been preapproved by the Internal Revenue Service as exempt from taxation under s. 401(a), s. 403(a), s. 403(b), s. 408, s. 408A, s. 409, s. 414, s. 457(b), or s. 501(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, unless it has been subsequently determined that the plan or governing instrument is not exempt from taxation in a proceeding that has become final and nonappealable;

2. Maintained in accordance with a plan or governing instrument that has been determined by the Internal Revenue Service to be exempt from taxation under s. 401(a), s. 403(a), s. 403(b), s. 408, s. 408A, s. 409, s. 414, s. 457(b), or s. 501(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, unless it has been subsequently determined that the plan or governing instrument is not exempt from taxation in a proceeding that has become final and nonappealable; or

3. Not maintained in accordance with a plan or governing instrument described in subparagraph 1. or subparagraph 2. if the person claiming exemption under this paragraph proves by a preponderance of the evidence that the fund or account is maintained in accordance with a plan or governing instrument that:

a. Is in substantial compliance with the applicable requirements for tax exemption
under s. 401(a), s. 403(a), s. 403(b), s. 408, s. 408A, s. 409, s. 414, s. 457(b), or s. 501(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended; or

b. Would have been in substantial compliance with the applicable requirements for tax exemption under s. 401(a), s. 403(a), s. 403(b), s. 408, s. 408A, s. 409, s. 414, s. 457(b), or s. 501(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, but for the negligent or wrongful conduct of a person or persons other than the person who is claiming the exemption under this section.

(b) It is not necessary that a fund or account that is described in paragraph (a) be maintained in accordance with a plan or governing instrument that is covered by any part of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act for money or assets payable from or any interest in that fund or account to be exempt from claims of creditors under that paragraph.

(c) Any money or other assets that are exempt from claims of creditors under paragraph (a) do not cease to qualify for exemption by reason of a direct transfer or eligible rollover that is excluded from gross income under s. 402(c) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.

(d) Any fund or account described in paragraph (a) is not exempt from the claims of an alternate payee under a qualified domestic relations order or from the claims of a surviving spouse pursuant to an order determining the amount of elective share and contribution as provided in part II of chapter 732. However, the interest of any alternate payee under a qualified domestic relations order is exempt from all claims of any creditor, other than the Department of Revenue, of the alternate payee. As used in this paragraph, the terms "alternate payee" and "qualified domestic relations order" have the meanings ascribed to them in s. 414(p) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.

(e) This subsection applies to any proceeding that is filed on or after the effective date of this act.

History.--s. 1, ch. 87-375; s. 1, ch. 98-159; s. 25, ch. 99-8; s. 5, ch. 2005-82; s. 1, ch. 2005-101; s. 1, ch. 2007-74. " http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0222/SEC21.HTM&Title=->2007->Ch0222->Section%2021#0222.21

676 days and 2 hours ago.

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Winston
thank you so much for your help - you have been awesome - look forward to using your service in the future - thak you, john messmore
                      columbus, ohio

Posted by Winston Mortain 675 days and 21 hours ago.

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You are welcome. Thank you.

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