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My budgie has scaly feet on her beak and the top of her head, I have cleared it from her claws, however the drops I have are not to be put near her nostrils, I have tried cotton buds to try and get it near her but I just cant get it on. She has also developed a ring around her neck now where she has lost her feathers and is quite red looking. I have a mite spray but it doesnt seem to be helping her. Any help you could give me would be appreciated. Thank you

Submitted: 589 days and 15 hours ago.
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Age: 2; Female; Breed: budgie

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I have drops for scaly feet and I have a spray for mites

Posted by Nora the Parrot / Pet Advisor 589 days and 13 hours ago.

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Hi Sue,

I'll be happy to help you with your budgie, but I would like to know a little bit more about your situation. Detailed answers to the following questions will help me provide you and your budgie the best possible response.

When did the scaly face/feet first begin?

Does your budgie has a regular avian vet which she sees for well-bird checkups one or more times per year? Did you get the drops and spray from the vet?

You said that she has scaly mites on her beak and on the top of her head. Please describe exactly what you mean about the top of her head. Is she scratching, What exact symptoms do you see?

Do you have one of those round white (usually that shape color) mite protectors in her cage?

Is she a lone budgie or does she have a cage mate? Are there other parrots (yes, budgies are simply little parrots) in the home.

Please describe her cage -- estimated size, material of which it is made, perches (number, type/material of each). Please also describe her toys briefly.

Is she tame and will she get on your finger or hand when asked? Will she let you tickle the top of her head or strock hergently?

You mention she is female. Are you certain of her gender? While this does not change the course of action I'll develop based on your responses, I would like to give you all the assistance possible.

Please tell me all about this ring on her neck that is now red and bare. How far down the neck is it located? Have you seen her scratching it, rubbing it against the cage, perches, or toys (or elsewhere)? When did this neck problem first begin? Has there been any blood or oozing?

I realize I'm asking for a great deal of information, but the more info I have available, the better advice I can provide you and your budgie.

 

588 days and 11 hours ago.

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Dear Nora,

Thanks for your help regarding my budgie.

The scaly feet started about 6 months ago but the scaly face just started about two months ago. She seems to have growth and disfigurement all around her beak and about a few cms above her cere, she has a small bit on her neck , just underneath it. Its raised lumps on her and very dry looking. It has started to surround her eyes, one in particular which she is tending to keep closed now. I haven’t been able to contact an avian vet here in the small town that I am in Ireland. Unfortunately I don’t have transport which is a bit of a nuisance. We have been keeping budgies for the last 40 years and our regular vet, not an avian specialist, has changed business and is not doing veterinary at all anymore. She is the only budgie I have. She is two and very tame. As sad as I am I bring her up to bed with me at night and she has her nightly routines, first she comes out for her spin around the room, goes back in, then comes onto my finger for her seed and then goes back in and out for her drink of water. Shes very funny. She doesn’t seem to mind me rubbing her belly and will climb to the top of the cage and turn her head around to be rubbed on the top of her head. She hates me catching her in my hand though. She is quite fond of a bit of pear or apple at night. I asked in my local pet shop about the symptoms and he advised me that it was scaly feet she had to start with. For some reason he can’t sell mite spray in the republic of Ireland anymore, it is now illegal so he advised me to buy Johnsons scaly feet online which I did, I also bought a mite spray from Johnsons too. I was able to clear up the feet by getting the drops directly onto her feet. I have been putting the drops on the top or back of her head and using the spray for about a month. I don’t think she is quite as bad as she was but she’s still itching a lot and is very uncomfortable with it.

The ring around her neck has only developed in the last few weeks. It looks like her feathers have fallen out in a ring right round her neck and it’s quite red and seems to be getting redder. Its about quarter of an inch below the end of her beak. She doesn’t seem to scratch this with her feet like she does the scaly feet but uses her beak and sometimes gives a squak as she’s doing it as if its hurting her. It hasn’t bled and she doesn’t rub it off anything, she will rub her head against the side of her cage and along her perch alright with the scaly face.

I haven’t a mite protector in her cage, to be honest I’ve never heard of one before. Her cage is approximately 18 inches wide and 18 inches in height and plastic. She has a plastic perch which she mainly stays on, there are two others in her cage. She stays mostly at her bell and mirror and spends a lot of her time with the bell on her head. She sleeps on her swing though. She lets me know when it’s time to go to bed, she goes up on her swing and gives out to me every night. She has a bath on the front of her cage which she will only drink her water from. She never would drink water from the small feeders, but she does take her seed in one. She has a cuttlefish which she doesn’t touch much, she is very fond of honey bars but mainly eats her Trill seed. There is a toy with three rings and a bell at the end of it, she only touches it occasionally.

I’m not sure of her gender, when I was buying her I was told she was a she but she was very young at the time and the man wasn’t sure because of it. She doesn’t talk like a lot of our other budgies.

I really appreciate all the help you can give me. She is a real pet and I’ll do anything I can to be able to help her . If you know of any websites where I can buy what she needs I will be grateful too.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.

Susan

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Hi Susan,

I can see that living in Ireland, the laws must be quite different in regards to selling mite products. I'm glad you ordered online and were able to get a product that seemed to work. While a vet-prescribed product would be much better, in your unique situation, you are doing the right thing.

The mite protector I mentioned is a round device people put on cages and I DO NOT recommend use of them, so I only wanted to know if you had one so I could suggest you remove it, so no problem there. They aren't good for the birds.

Does the product you purchased contain Ivermectin? If so, it is the same product a vet would use. http://www.abbaseed.com/Supplements/Suppl2/IVERMECTIN/ivermectin.html provides information on how one budgie owner solved the problem of getting their bird to take the medication.

If your medication is not Ivermectin, talk to your medical doctor to see if he will provide a prescription to you or talk to any vet you can locate, even one that treats farm animals since this is used for poultry also. This medication is the only one that is certain to cure the burrowing mite problem which causes scaley face and feet.

Let's talk about her gender a little: if you look at here cere (the area above her beak where her nostrils are located), the color may be blue. If so, she is not female. If it is pink, tan, or brown, then she is female. This is a 98% sure way to tell the gender in parakeets. Of course, she doesn't care if you call her she or he as long as you love her, which you clearly do!

Let's talk about diet a little also: she needs to eat far less seeds and lots of fresh fruits, veggies, and bird-safe people foods. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGIH,GGIH:2007-02,GGIH:en&q=parrot+diet+caterino will provide a good guide for you on foods to offer and those which are deadly or which must be limited. Covert her slowly by offering new foods after letting her see you eat them and slowly reducing the amount of seeds offered.

Please get her more perches of various kinds. She needs at least one that is a soft bendable rope perch for foot comfort since she must be on her feet 24/7. She needs at least one that is natural bird-safe wood with bark on which you can forage in the forest for. http://www.birdsafe.com is a great place to find out which woods are safe as well as about household dangers. She also needs one perch at least which is a concrete like material for conditioning. You can leave the one plastic perch if you want, but do give her choices of materials and textures in perches as well as various diameters. Otherwise, as she ages, she will become arthritic in her feet and suffer from the pain and inability to get about easily.

Baths: She might like to the sprayed with a water bottle -- many parakeets do. She might like to have a romaine lettuce leaf placed in her cage dripping with water in which to bathe. Different birds like their baths different ways, so experiement and she'll tell you which she prefers.

Keep the cuttlebone available, even if she doesn't seem to use it. Be sure it is installed with the soft side toward her and the hard side toward the cage bars. This is an important source of calcium. You can also give her brocolli, cooked egg shells, and mineral blocks for calcium but don't remove the cuttlebone.

I can tell you love your little lady and I do hope she gets over this mite infestation quickly. Since it has spread to her neck area, it may take a bit of time, but you can get a handle on it once you get the right medication and continue using it faithfully. Don't overuse it -- an overdose can be deadly -- but follow instructions carefully and she'll get better.

If I can help further, please use "reply" after accepting this answer.

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Expert: Nora the Parrot / Pet Advisor
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583 days and 13 hours ago.

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Reply to Nora the Pet Advisor's Post: Dear Nora,

I've just accepted your answer and I just want to say thank you very much for all your advice about my budgie. I will implement all your suggestions straight away.

Thank you for your help. I really appreciate it.

Regards,
Susan

Posted by Nora the Parrot / Pet Advisor 583 days and 11 hours ago.

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HI Susan,

For some reason, it does not show that you accepted the answer, but I thank you very much for your kind words. I'm so very happy I was able to assist you in helping your budgie. They are such darling, cute, amusing and loving little clowns. I couldn't live without them -- well, other my other parrots either.

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