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I have a lhasa apso bitch, she is 3 years old I would like to have 1 set of puppies from her. The problem is she has these sort of fits i dont understand anything about these problems ,i wonder if you could give me some advice as what to do as regards her having pups, ie is it safe for her, can thes Fits damage her, will she always have fits etc etc. Thank you

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Posted by Gen B. 609 days and 12 hours ago.

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Please describe the episodes in as much detail as you can...what happens?

When did these episodes first begin to happen?

What are the circumstances? Before or after meals? In the spring, or all year-round?

Does she become unconscious? Drool? Loose bladder control? Fall down? Turn blue?

How does she recover?

When was her last physical exam at the vet's office?

Has she ever been put on medication for this problem?

609 days and 12 hours ago.

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these fits started to happen when she was about one and a half years old there does not seem to be any particular time when the fits happen sometimes she poos herself she cannot walk, it is af she was drunk, she is not able to walk properly and she does fall over. after a short while she then starts to drool. when this happens and i am aware of it , i Pick her up and nurse her and try to comfott her and then she starts to come around, this can take up to an hour or more.
She was seen by a vet approx 5/6 months ago he said if i get too worried about her to go back and see him. She has had no medication for this problem

Posted by Gen B. 609 days and 12 hours ago.

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Hello and thanks for researching this very important question!

Unfortunately, I do not have great news for you.

I do suspect that your Little One is having seizures. If they are happening more than once a month, she should be put on medication to control them.

Seizures are the result of abnormal electrical activity in the brain. They can be due to a number of things, including low blood sugar (usually seen much earlier than 1 1/2 years of age), kidney disease, Lyme disease, other physical illnesses, or developmental problems that affect the shape of the brain itself.

Lhasas are afflicted by a brain abnormality called Lissencephaly, but the seizures from this condition are also accompanied by retardation, uncoordinated movement and aggression. The highlighted link above contains a more detailed discussion about seizures in dogs.

Sometimes, seizures problems cannot be linked with another body condition and are called Idiopathic (greek for illness that doesn't make sense)...this problem is also called Epilepsy. Epilepsy is known to be inherited from parents.

Epileptic dogs should NOT be used for breeding as the pregancy/labor/nursing pose a hazard to the mother dog's condition, and the pups will be at higher risk of developing the seizure condition themselves. Research is now underway to try and find the "epilepsy genes" in dogs so that breeders can eliminate carrier dogs from their breeding programs...so far these projects are in very early stages, and no conclusions have been reached.

If this were my pet, unfortunately, I'd have to disqualify her from breeding so that her health could be safeguarded and no new epileptic pups would enter the world.


I'd urge you as well to not take these episodes casually...you may want to seek a second opinion with another vet office in your area. Continued and prolonged seizures can damage the brain over time.

If you need additional support at this time, please click "Reply", otherwise I thank you in advance for your "Accept".

609 days and 12 hours ago.

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thank you for your answer, one last question will it be safe to have her neutered or will it damage her more.

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Good question!

Anesthesia in epileptic dogs must be handled carefully. For instance, no tranquillizer drugs (like acepromazine) should be given (these medicines often reduce the brain's natural controls and bring on seizures in affected pets).

How well she will do with surgery depends on how well her condition can be diagnosed, and how familiar the veterinary surgeon is with handling these kinds of patients.

I would not submit her for surgery until you can be given a diagnosis that you can have confidence in.

No one could give a %-Success for any individual case (since anesthesia is really serious for anyone), but I have seen very good veterinary surgeons handle these patients competently and with Good Results (ie, they recover well and go home the same day!).

If you are able to find a vet's office that is very familiar with all kinds of seizure problems and their variations, then you would be in the best hands possible...a spayed female has lower incidence of breast tumors, and of course, avoids all problems associated with the uterus and ovaries.

Please let me know if I can give you any more support today...


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