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I have a 91 BMW 525i it was running fine and then it started missing, it will start but it will not stay running it has a very rough idile. it will take some of a rev but its not smooth. it sounds like it sucking a lot of air

Submitted: 677 days and 17 hours ago.
Category: BMW
Value: $9
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1991 BMW 525i

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adding fuel, additive cleaner i dont know that much about it

Posted by RIP 676 days ago.

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HI, welcome to Just Answer.

  1. During the time it does run, does the check engine lamp stay illuminated?
  2. How many miles are on it?

Rip

675 days and 23 hours ago.

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Yes the check engine light is on and the car has 289,ooo miles on it. it has had the timming belt replaced over a year ago.

Posted by RIP 675 days and 17 hours ago.

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Thanks, the first step is to pull a code from the engine computer and see what relation it has with this problem. Sounds like you may have a typical MAF (Mass Airflow Sensor) failure.

Use the procedure below to get codes watching the check engine lamp flash, it's difficult to enter the manual self-diagnostics on these so you may need to do it a few times. Let me know the codes and we'll determine what's going on.

With Flash Codes
Notes

NOTE : All troubleshooting should begin by "Checking the Basics" . Certain basic faults can be undetectable by the self-diagnostic system of the DME control unit and in some cases can actually interfere with the self-checking and fault memory operation. Refer to "Checking the Basics" .
See: Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview\Initial Inspection\Checking the Basics

In the event of a DME system malfunction, circuit information will be stored in the internal memory of the DME control unit. Intermittent failures are stored with a record of the failure frequency. The DME control unit is able to store up to five malfunctions, and will give priority to those items which can cause the vehicle to exceed exhaust emission standards. In addition to being stored in memory, an emissions-related failure will cause the "Check Engine" light to illuminate on the instrument cluster. Furthermore, the "Check Engine" light is used to display faults which are stored in the control unit's memory when the self-diagnostic procedure is initiated. Faults may also be retrieved with the BMW service tester if available.

Entering Self-Diagnostics

  1. Switch the ignition to the run (ON) position.
  2. Depress the accelerator pedal five (5) times to the wide open throttle position within five (5) seconds to display flash codes for DME control unit 1. The accelerator pedal must be depressed six (6) times to display the flash codes for DME control unit 2. NOTE: Since the BMW V12 engine uses two independent DME control units, fault codes and procedures must be followed for the specific system. DME system 1 fault codes affect cylinders 1-6. DME system 2 fault codes affect cylinders 7-12.
  3. Read and record any flash codes that are displayed.
  4. Refer to the "FAULT CODE CHART" for the affected component or system. See: Diagnostic Trouble Code Descriptions
  5. Continue with the diagnosis procedures as outlined in "FAULT CODE DIAGNOSIS" . See: Reading Diagnostic Trouble Codes
  6. Repair or replace the affected component or system.
  7. Clear the fault code. See: Clearing Diagnostic Trouble Codes NOTE: To achieve good mid-range torque characteristics, long air intake pipes are used. This method of induction requires that the plenum chamber for the left bank (cylinders 7-12) be mounted on the right side of the engine, and the plenum for the right bank (cylinders 1-6) be mounted on the left side of the engine. The technician must keep this in mind when referring to component locations and testing procedures. Components such as air intake sensors, air mass sensors, injectors, throttle position motors and induction systems may be misdiagnosed because of the possible confusion. Remember that fault codes will always refer to the DME system (DME system 1 = cyl. 1-6) and (DME system 2 = cyl. 7-12).

674 days and 17 hours ago.

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The information you sent me is for a V12 I have a 1991 525i it has a inline 6 cyc. Will this same process work to retrive the codes?

Answer

No - this IS the procedure for all BMW's in that model year...the portion about the V12 is just a NOTE for anyone working with the V12 engine.

Rip

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673 days and 11 hours ago.

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I have not been able to try and get the codes due to bad weather so everything is on hold until I can check it out

Posted by RIP 672 days and 23 hours ago.

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No problem, let me know when you can...

Rip

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