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I have a L200 vita spa the heater works but it seems to take

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Hello I have a L200 vita spa the heater works but it seems to take long to heat up a degree or two (say 12 hours or so ) does a heater get lazy after few years
JA: I'll do all I can to help. How long have you been dealing with this?
Customer: I just purchased the tub it heated up but took a long time in my opinion
JA: Do you plan on doing the work yourself?
Customer: yes
JA: Anything else we should know to help you best?
Customer: the temp seems to be a couple of degrees of say the pad is 90 the water temp is 89!
JA: How long has this been going on? And how severe is the problem?
Customer: not severe
Submitted: 5 months ago.
Category: Pool and Spa
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

Do you get any error codes such as a limit opening? Sometimes a limit will open cutting the heating element off and on

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
nope no codes
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
dispal tells me that the heater is on if I turn it down spa turns off normal
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

Do you have an amp meter to check amp draw on element and see if it is drawing proper amps and staying on?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
I have a meter
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

OK can you send me a picture of wiring diagram and label showing nomenclature of unt?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

From looking at the diagram it looks like you have 2 elements.One may be bad. Locate the elements, disconnect wires at elements and ohm the elements to see if perhaps one is open.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
only one element
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
do for voltage do I terminal and ground on heater
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
kinda confused now lol
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
here are the pics of the board and heater?
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

Picture shows 2 heaters. Do you see the other heater terminals .Back up and take a pic a little farther bback

Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

Should be 2 more terminals like these

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
there isn't
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
those two black wires run to the heater I sent 2 pics on of the board and one of the heater do they use ground as a common ??
there is 10 ohms between terminals on the heater.
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

Sorry for some reason I did not get your reply earlier. Did you disconnect the wires to check the ohms? And on call for heat, do we get 230v between these wires?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
diconected wires there is 115v at each post and for the ohms disconnected heater and there is 10.5 ohms
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

OK ohms is good. And the 110 to ground is good, but do we have 220 between? And is the 110present on each wire if test disconnected?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
is the element heating properly
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

OK element sounds like it is good.The only thing I could think of is if it cutting out periodocially The elements do not get "weak"

Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

Do you have a clamp on meter to clamp around wire and see how many amps it draws?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
how many should it draw
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
its a clamp around
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

I wasn't able to locate a manual with this is why I asked about label with nomenclature. There should be a label somewhere that says voltage, amps, model, serial and things like that.It should list amp draw for pumps and element individually.

Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

If it says 4.5 or 4.8 KW we should be drawing roughly 19 to 21 amps

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
k ill test tomorrow ty for tonite
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

I have that one but it is just a users manual. No service data included.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
should it draw 19 to 21 total with motor running
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
cant get it to show any amps does if I go to the main live!
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

WE want amp meter clamped around one wire to element only.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
Just did that no amps
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

Do you have voltage to those terminals but still no amps?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

OK element is bad then.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
But has continuity when wires are off and test element
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

I did read in one of the manuals from case and element we should read at least 1 million ohms.

This is from case to terminal. Lets check that way.

Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

Found that today on page 10 in this manual

http://www.consumerengineering.com/p1.html

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
there was no ohm when I did it from case to terminal
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

I am going to say if we have power to the element but element draws zero amps, we have a bad element

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
k thanks I will let you know in a few days order a new one
Expert:  airheatman replied 5 months ago.

Sounds good.

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