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I am installiong a Sunrise Eneavour spa / hottub. My bro is

 
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I am installiong a Sunrise Eneavour spa / hottub. My bro is a conitracotr and will come by and hook everything up but I need to buy the electrical parts. I ran the 6-3 wire and have a 50 amp GFCI breaker for main 200 amp panel that is inside. What do I need for exterior? Can the exterior box also have a GFCI, and if the only "spa box" I can find, which is at Home Depot, has a GFCI, should I change the panel breaker to one that is not a GFCI?

Submitted: 362 days and 20 hours ago.
Category: Pool and Spa
Value: CA$30
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Expert:  TheHotTubGuy replied 362 days and 20 hours ago.

Hello. My name is XXXXX XXXXX allow me a moment to review your question thoroughly.

Do you have 3 wire+ground or just 3 wire?

Customer replied 362 days and 20 hours ago.

It is 6-3 wire. That's 6 guage and 3 wires.

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Expert:  TheHotTubGuy replied 362 days and 20 hours ago.

I ask because most hot tub require a neutral wire as well. Have you checked the requirements of your system?

There are some that run without a neutral wire, but it is not the norm. Mostly Vita, Sundance, Jacuzzi. tubs.

It is important to know before going any further.

Customer replied 362 days and 20 hours ago.

It is a Sunrise spa, model Endeavour and the gentleman I bought it from told me to get 6-3 wire; i.e., 3 wires. I am quite certain it does run with 3 wires.

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Expert:  TheHotTubGuy replied 362 days and 19 hours ago.

On the back of the control box cover there will be a wiring diagram. It will show if you require:
Line 1
Line 2
Ground

OR

Line 1
Line 2
Neutral
Ground.

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Answered: 5/14/2012

Experience: 15 yrs. experience repairing all brands of hot tubs.

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Customer replied 362 days and 19 hours ago.

The spa has not been deliveed yet so I can not look at the control box. Please answer the question based on 3 wires as the sales person is very experienced selling these spas and I believe him that it is 3 wires not 4.

Customer replied 362 days and 19 hours ago.

Are you still considering this question?

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Expert:  TheHotTubGuy replied 362 days and 19 hours ago.

Okay, here you go:

  • Use a standard 240v 50amp breaker in the main panel. Use a 50amp gfci in the sub-panel.
  • Run the 2 lines (black and red) from the breaker to the sub-panel lugs above the breaker.
  • Run the ground from the ground bar in the main panel to the ground bar in the sub-panel. Do not use the neutral bar in the sub-panel for the ground wire.
  • That wires your sub-panel.

Now from the sub-panel to the hot tub:

  • You will connect each outgoing hot (loads) to the 50 amp gfci breaker. Do not use the neutral wire connection on the breaker. Black on one side, red on the other. This will go to the terminal block in the hot tub's control box. Black is Line 1, Red is Line 2.
  • Connect the ground wire to the ground bar in the sub-panel and to the ground lug or terminal block in the hot tub's control box.
  • Install the white pigtail from the breaker to the neutral bar in the sub-panel.
  • Now install the 50 amp gfci breaker into the sub-panel and re-tighten your connections.

Do you have any questions?

Customer replied 362 days and 19 hours ago.

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Ny the way my email XXXXX@XXXXXX.XXX, which Just Answer won't accept.

I am still waiting for a reply to my question as all I got were questions that were anwered in my original question and I am no further ahead.

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Expert:  TheHotTubGuy replied 362 days and 19 hours ago.

You will use a "spa box" for the outside. It must be in plain site no closer than five feet from the hot tub. It will contain your gfci breaker. You will need wiring (pigtail) to go from the sub-panel to the hot tub. You can use 3/4' or 1' conduit or maybe an SO cord depending on your situation. The wires must be 6gauge.

I would not use double gfci breakers. One on the outside wired correctly will protect bathers, and the metal box itself from harming anyone. It will allow a service person to work on the tub without running back and forth to the main panel, and it provides the requirement for an outside safety disconnect.

If you have a gfci breaker, just buy an outside panel that accepts that style of breaker.

Spa boxes are very reasonable, often less than buying just the gfci breaker alone.

Sorry for not being clear enough; does that answer your question?41043.7722973032

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Expert:  TheHotTubGuy replied 362 days and 19 hours ago.

If you have any further or follow up questions, please reply and I will be happy to answer them. I cannot contact you by email, Im sorry. Sure would be easier sometimes.

Let me find you a very good diagram of what I am describing.

Just a moment.

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Expert:  TheHotTubGuy replied 362 days and 18 hours ago.

This is a very good one. It is specific for 3 wire, no neutral.


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