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We are trying to pull an engine out of a 1997 3.8 L VIN K

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we are trying to pull an engine out of a 1997 3.8 L VIN K pontiac Grand Prix. WE are currently trying to unconnect the drive train to the front wheels so we can pull the engine out either with the transmission connected to the engine, or not. We don't know if the engine and transmission will come out together. We have the wheels off and the brakes off, we pulled out a big nut from the very center of the wheels, hoping the axle would come out from there. The nut came off but nothing budged.
The question is how do we get the engine out? We have disconnected many things from the top side of the engine, have a hoist connected to it where the motor mounts were. Do we have to disconnect the transmission from the engine, or just the transmission from the wheels and the transmission comes out with the engine? We would really like pictures if possible,we are not mechanics, just a dad and a 15 yr old son on a project, so we really don't know the names of parts unless they are pointed out to us. Thanks.
Submitted: 6 months ago.
Category: Pontiac
Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 6 months ago.

Hi, I'm Chad. Welcome to JustAnswer. I'm reviewing your question now, and will post back with your reply ASAP.

Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 6 months ago.

You can leave transmission on like the below procedure but taking it out as one unit and dismantle it on the floor is much easier , trust me on this i done several

I send the complet R &R procedure below , please let me know if that works for you

1997 Pontiac Grand Prix V6-3.8L VIN K

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1. Remove the hood. See Body and Frame. 2. Disconnect the battery ground (negative) cable. 3. Drain the coolant. See Cooling System. 4. Drain the engine oil. 5. Remove the fuel injector sight shield. Refer to Engine Cover Replacement See: Engine > Procedures 6. Remove the air cleaner duct. See Powertrain Management. NOTE: Relieve the fuel pressure. See Powertrain Management. 7. Disconnect the fuel lines from the rail and the mounting bracket. Lay the fuel lines aside. See Powertrain Management. 8. Disconnect the throttle and cruise cables with the mounting bracket from the throttle body. See Powertrain Management. 9. Remove the engine mount struts from the engine mount strut brackets. 10. Remove the engine mount strut brackets from the upper radiator support. 11. Remove the engine cooling fans. See Cooling System. 12. Remove the vacuum line to the transaxle vacuum modulator. See Transmission and Drivetrain. 13. Remove the vacuum booster hose from the engine. See Powertrain Management. 14. Remove the power steering pump from the engine. Lay the power steering pump aside. See Steering and Suspension. 15. Remove the A/C compressor from the engine. Lay the A/C compressor aside. Secure the compressor to the frame. See Heating and Air Conditioning. 16. Remove the electrical connections from the engine. See Powertrain Management. 17. Remove the upper radiator hose from the engine. See Cooling System. 18. Remove the lower radiator hose from the engine. See Cooling System. 19. Remove the heater hoses from the engine. See Heating and Air Conditioning. 20. Raise and suitably support the vehicle. 21. Remove the flex plate cover. See Transmission and Drivetrain. 22. Remove the starter motor. See Starting and Charging. 23. Scribe the torque converter to the flex plate for installation. 24. Remove the flex plate-to-torque converter bolts. See Transmission and Drivetrain. 25. Remove the transaxle brace. See Transmission and Drivetrain. 26. Remove the engine mount to frame nuts. 27. Remove the three way catalytic converter pipe from the manifold. See Powertrain Management. 28. Remove the lower transaxle-to-engine bolts. See Transmission and Drivetrain. 29. Lower the vehicle. 30. Remove the upper transaxle-to-engine bolts. See Transmission and Drivetrain.

31. Remove the engine from the vehicle.

Customer: replied 6 months ago.
We do not understand steps 23 and beyond. Could you explain i detail these steps? Also the steps commonly mention "See instructions, and diagrams." Could you give us those diagrams?
Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 6 months ago.

REMOVE OR DISCONNECT 1. Battery ground (negative) cable. 2. Raise vehicle and suitably support. 3. Electrical connections at starter. 4. Converter cover. 5. Starter motor mounting bolts/screws. 6. Starter motor from engine. INSTALL OR CONNECT NOTE: Refer to Service Precautions. 1. Starter motor to engine. 2. Starter motor mounting bolts/screws. Tighten - Bolts/screws to 43 N.m (32 lb. ft.). 3. Converter cover. 4. Electrical connections to starter. Tighten - Starter solenoid "BAT" terminal nut to 9.5 N.m (84 lb. in.). - Starter solenoid "S" terminal nut to 3 N.m (27 lb. in.). 5. Lower vehicle. 6. Battery ground (negative) cable.

REMOVE OR DISCONNECT 1. Battery ground (negative) cable. 2. Raise vehicle and suitably support. 3. Electrical connections at starter. 4. Converter cover. 5. Starter motor mounting bolts/screws. 6. Starter motor from engine. INSTALL OR CONNECT NOTE: Refer to Service Precautions. 1. Starter motor to engine. 2. Starter motor mounting bolts/screws. Tighten - Bolts/screws to 43 N.m (32 lb. ft.). 3. Converter cover. 4. Electrical connections to starter. Tighten - Starter solenoid "BAT" terminal nut to 9.5 N.m (84 lb. in.). - Starter solenoid "S" terminal nut to 3 N.m (27 lb. in.). 5. Lower vehicle. 6. Battery ground (negative) cable.

REMOVE OR DISCONNECT 1. Battery ground (negative) cable. 2. Raise vehicle and suitably support. 3. Electrical connections at starter. 4. Converter cover. 5. Starter motor mounting bolts/screws. 6. Starter motor from engine. INSTALL OR CONNECT NOTE: Refer to Service Precautions. 1. Starter motor to engine. 2. Starter motor mounting bolts/screws. Tighten - Bolts/screws to 43 N.m (32 lb. ft.). 3. Converter cover. 4. Electrical connections to starter. Tighten - Starter solenoid "BAT" terminal nut to 9.5 N.m (84 lb. in.). - Starter solenoid "S" terminal nut to 3 N.m (27 lb. in.). 5. Lower vehicle. 6. Battery ground (negative) cable.

34. Transaxle from frame to bench. Refer to the TRANSMISSION/TRANSAXLE/TRANSFER CASE UNIT REPAIR.

Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 6 months ago.

SCRIBE ,they mean align the flex plate with torque converter

Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 6 months ago.

THESE ARE YOUR ENGINE MOUNTS , THAT IS ALL I HAVE ON IT .

let me know if that works for you