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I had a 2000 grand prix gt with the 3800 engine. It caught

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I had a 2000 grand prix gt with the 3800 engine. It caught fire mysteriously and burned to the ground in my lane way. I have heard talk of possible recalls etc. related to fires and wonder how to pursue this matter. Apparently this has happened to several other people. The car had been parked about 30 minutes before it burned. I didnt notice any smell of fuel revious to this. I am writing from Canada in case this may have any bearing on the matter.
Thanks for your help.
This car was not insured for fire so is a total loss!
Submitted: 4 years ago.
Category: Pontiac
Expert:  Amedee replied 4 years ago.

Hello!

 

I am not sure this is exactly what happened to your car, but there was a recall not to long ago on these motors for the oil pan gasket leaking oil onto the exhaust manifold starting a fire. THis is a very good possibility that this is what happened to your vehicle. If I were you I would contact GM and tell them what happened with your vehicle.

Customer: replied 4 years ago.
That I already know. I was hoping you could give me some info on how to get this car registered as a faulty vehicle. Who do I contact after GM? Have any other people received any satisfaction from GM? What are my options?etc.
Expert:  Amedee replied 4 years ago.

SOrry, that is all the info I have. I will leave this question open.

 

Expert:  RussMasterTech replied 4 years ago.

Hello Don,

 

There is a CURRENT recall for engine compartment fires out for your vehicle. Has the recall been done yet? Did you receive the recall notive in the mail?

 

Russ

Customer: replied 4 years ago.
I am not the original owner therefore I did not receive any notice
Expert:  RussMasterTech replied 4 years ago.

I'll send you the copy of the recall from GM. Notice at the bottom, there are instructions on which numbers to call for GM, and if you're not satisfied, there should be a government office to call. The only thing I'm unsure of is how Canada's transportation dept works. We don't give legal advice on the auto tech forums.

 

You should call the GM Canada numbers and see what they have to say.

 

Hope this helps you.

 

Subject:09047 -- Engine Compartment Fire

Models:1997-2003 Buick Regal
1998-1999 Chevrolet Lumina
1998-2003 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
2000-2003 Chevrolet Impala
1998-1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue
1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix
Equipped with 3.8L V6 Naturally Aspirated Engine (RPO L36 - VIN K)

 

 


Condition

General Motors has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists in certain 1997-2003 model year Buick Regal and Pontiac Grand Prix, 1998-1999 model year Chevrolet Lumina and Oldsmobile Intrigue, 1998-2003 model year Chevrolet Monte Carlo, and 2000-2003 model year Chevrolet Impala model vehicles, equipped with a 3.8L V6 naturally aspirated engine (RPO L36 - VIN K). Some of these vehicles have a condition in which drops of engine oil may be deposited on the exhaust manifold through hard braking. In rare cases, if this condition occurs, and if a hot surface ignition source were present, an engine compartment fire could occur.

Correction

Dealers are to remove the 1-3-5 spark plug wire retention channel at the front of engine and replace it with new retainers.

Vehicles Involved

Involved are certain 1997-2003 model year Buick Regal and Pontiac Grand Prix, 1998-1999 model year Chevrolet Lumina and Oldsmobile Intrigue, 1998-2003 model year Chevrolet Monte Carlo, and 2000-2003 model year Chevrolet Impala model vehicles, equipped with a 3.8L V6 naturally aspirated engine (RPO L36 - VIN K), and built within these VIN breakpoints:

Year

Division

Model

From

Through

1997

Buick

Regal

V1400016

V1482810

1998

Buick

Regal

W1400005

W1614356

1999

Buick

Regal

X1400005

X1637860

2000

Buick

Regal

Y1100004

Y1360467

2001

Buick

Regal

11100004

11338085

2002

Buick

Regal

21100001

21301745

2003

Buick

Regal

31100001

31299522

2000

Chevrolet

Impala

Y9100001

Y9385472

2001

Chevrolet

Impala

19100001

19378249

2002

Chevrolet

Impala

29100002

29391929

2003

Chevrolet

Impala

39100002

39455173

1998

Chevrolet

Lumina

W9100001

W9337592

1999

Chevrolet

Lumina

X9100004

X9267154

1998

Chevrolet

Monte Carlo

W9100004

W9337590

1999

Chevrolet

Monte Carlo

X9100003

X9288589

2000

Chevrolet

Monte Carlo

Y9100297

Y9385464

2001

Chevrolet

Monte Carlo

19100004

19278234

2002

Chevrolet

Monte Carlo

29100018

29391931

2003

Chevrolet

Monte Carlo

39100018

39455171

1998

Oldsmobile

Intrigue

WF300001

WF407668

1999

Oldsmobile

Intrigue

XF300090

XF351930

1997

Pontiac

Grand Prix

VF200005

VF359118

1998

Pontiac

Grand Prix

WF200001

WF342337

1999

Pontiac

Grand Prix

XF200002

XF355310

2000

Pontiac

Grand Prix

YF100033

YF353313

2001

Pontiac

Grand Prix

1F100004

1F275188

2002

Pontiac

Grand Prix

2F100016

2F293267

2003

Pontiac

Grand Prix

3F100002

3F181300

Important: Dealers are to confirm vehicle eligibility prior to beginning repairs by using the GM Vehicle Inquiry System (GMVIS). Not all vehicles within the above breakpoints may be involved.

For dealers with involved vehicles, a listing with involved vehicles containing the complete vehicle identification number, customer name, and address information has been prepared and will be provided through the applicable system listed below. Dealers will not have a report available if they have no involved vehicles currently assigned.

- US and Canadian dealers - GM GlobalConnect Recall Reports

- Export dealers - sent directly to dealers

The listing may contain customer names and addresses obtained from Motor Vehicle Registration Records. The use of such motor vehicle registration data for any purpose other than follow-up necessary to complete this recall is a violation of law in several states/provinces/countries. Accordingly, you are urged to limit the use of this report to the follow-up necessary to complete this recall.

Parts Information

Parts required to complete this recall are to be obtained from General Motors Service and Parts Operations (GMSPO). Please refer to your "involved vehicles listing" before ordering parts. Normal orders should be placed on a DRO = Daily Replenishment Order. In an emergency situation, parts should be ordered on a CSO = Customer Special Order.

Part Number

Description

Qty/ Vehicle

88891792

Retainer, Splg Wire (4-wire, 7mm)

1

12132229

Retainer, Splg Wire (2-Wire, 7mm)

1

Service Procedure


    Object Number:(NNN) NNN-NNNN Size: SH

  1. Remove the fuel injector sight shield (1). Refer to Fuel Injector Sight Shield Replacement in SI.
    Object Number:(NNN) NNN-NNNN Size: SH

    Important: It is not necessary to remove the spark plug wires from the spark plugs.

  2. Remove the 1-3-5 spark plug plastic retaining channel (cover) clip/bracket (2) from the engine and discard it.

    7mm Four-Wire Retainer, P/N 88891792


    Object Number:(NNN) NNN-NNNN Size: SH

    Important: If a 7mm four-wire retainer is not available, use an 8mm four-wire retainer (1), P/N 14066248 (qty 10/pack), or equivalent 7mm aftermarket spark plug wire retainer.


    Object Number:(NNN) NNN-NNNN Size: SH

  3. Install a 7mm four-wire retainer, P/N 88891792 (1) (qty 5/pack) to spark plug wire number 4, then to spark plug wires 1,3 and 5. Save the other 7mm or 8mm spark plug four-wire retainers for future repairs. Make sure that spark plug wires 2, 4 and 6 are secured to the original retainers and under the left engine mount strut bracket (2).

    7mm Two-Wire Retainer, P/N 12132229


    Object Number:(NNN) NNN-NNNN Size: SH


    Object Number:(NNN) NNN-NNNN Size: SH

  4. Install a 7mm two-wire retainer, P/N 12132229 (qty 10/pack) to spark plug wires 3 and 5 only (3). Save the other 7mm spark plug two-wire retainers for future repairs. Make sure the spark plug retainer (3) is approximately 50mm (2 in) from the oil level indicator (2).
    Object Number:(NNN) NNN-NNNN Size: SH

    Important: Ensure the installed spark plug wire retainers do not contact the fuel injector sight shield or exhaust manifold.

  5. Install the fuel injector sight shield (1). Refer to Fuel Injector Sight Shield Replacement in SI.

Claim Information

Submit a Product Recall Claim with the information indicated below:

Repair Performed

Part Count

Part No.

Parts Allow

CC-FC

Labor Op

Labor Hours

Net Item

Install Spark Plug Retainers

2

--

*

MA-96

V2066

0.2

N/A

* The "Parts Allowance" should be the sum total of the current GMSPO Dealer net price plus applicable Mark-Up or Landed Cost Mark-Up (for Export) for the spark plug wire retainers needed to complete the repair.

Refer to the General Motors WINS Claim Processing Manual for details on Product Recall Claim Submission.

Customer Notification - For US and Canada

General Motors will notify customers of this recall on their vehicle (see copy of customer letter included with this bulletin).

Customer Notification - For Export

Letters will be sent to known owners of record located within areas covered by the US National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act. For owners outside these areas, dealers should notify customers using the attached sample letter.

Dealer Recall Responsibility - For US and Export (US States, Territories, and Possessions)

The US National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act provides that each vehicle that is subject to a recall of this type must be adequately repaired within a reasonable time after the customer has tendered it for repair. A failure to repair within sixty days after tender of a vehicle is prima facie evidence of failure to repair within a reasonable time. If the condition is not adequately repaired within a reasonable time, the customer may be entitled to an identical or reasonably equivalent vehicle at no charge or to a refund of the purchase price less a reasonable allowance for depreciation. To avoid having to provide these burdensome remedies, every effort must be made to promptly schedule an appointment with each customer and to repair their vehicle as soon as possible. In the recall notification letters, customers are told how to contact the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration if the recall is not completed within a reasonable time.

Dealer Recall Responsibility - All

All unsold new vehicles in dealers' possession and subject to this recall must be held and inspected/repaired per the service procedure of this recall bulletin before customers take possession of these vehicles.

Dealers are to service all vehicles subject to this recall at no charge to customers, regardless of mileage, age of vehicle, or ownership, from this time forward.

Customers who have recently purchased vehicles sold from your vehicle inventory, and for which there is no customer information indicated on the dealer listing, are to be contacted by the dealer. Arrangements are to be made to make the required correction according to the instructions contained in this bulletin. A copy of the customer letter is provided in this bulletin for your use in contacting customers. Recall follow-up cards should not be used for this purpose, since the customer may not as yet have received the notification letter.

In summary, whenever a vehicle subject to this recall enters your vehicle inventory, or is in your dealership for service in the future, you must take the steps necessary to be sure the recall correction has been made before selling or releasing the vehicle. GM bulletins

April 2009

Dear General Motors Customer:

This notice is sent to you in accordance with the requirements of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act.

General Motors has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists in certain 1997-2003 model year Buick Regal and Pontiac Grand Prix, 1998-1999 model year Chevrolet Lumina and Oldsmobile Intrigue, 1998-2003 model year Chevrolet Monte Carlo, and 2000-2003 model year Chevrolet Impala model vehicles, equipped with a 3.8L V6 naturally aspirated engine. As a result, GM is conducting a safety recall. We apologize for this inconvenience. However, we are concerned about your safety and continued satisfaction with our products.

Important:

Your vehicle is involved in safety recall 09047.
Schedule an appointment with your GM dealers.
This service will be performed for you at no charge .

 

Why is your vehicle being recalled?

An underhood fire may be caused by drops of engine oil, from seepage or spillage, being deposited on the exhaust manifold through hard braking. If the manifold is hot enough, the oil may ignite into a small flame and, in some instances, the fire may spread to the plastic spark plug wire channel and beyond. If this occurs, there could be a fire in your vehicle and nearby property.

What will we do?

Your GM dealer will replace the spark plug wire channel with new spark plug wire retainers. This service will be performed for you at no charge. Because of service scheduling requirements, it is likely that your dealer will need your vehicle longer than the actual service correction time of approximately 15 minutes.

What should you do?

You should contact your GM dealer to arrange a service appointment as soon as possible. Bring the enclosed customer reply form with you when you visit your dealer. The form identifies the repairs required. If you no longer own this vehicle, please let us know by completing the form and mailing it back to us.

There are two very important precautions you should take before your vehicle is serviced:

We strongly recommend you not park your vehicle in a garage, car port, or other structure.
If you notice a burning odor, you should have your GM dealer inspect your vehicle immediately. The dealer will inspect your vehicle without charge.

Do you have questions?

If you have questions or concerns that your dealer is unable to resolve, please contact the appropriate Customer Assistance Center at the number listed below. More information about this recall can be found at the Owner Center at MyGMLink, http://www.gm.com/recall.

Division

Number

Text Telephones (TTY)

Buick

1-866-608-8080

1-800-832-8425

Chevrolet

1-800-630-2438

1-800-833-2438

Pontiac

1-800-620-7668

1-800-833-7668

Oldsmobile

1-800-630-6537

1-800-833-6537

Guam

1-671-648-8450

 

Puerto Rico - English

1-800-496-9992

 

Puerto Rico - Español

1-800-496-9993

 

Virgin Islands

1-800-496-9994

 

If after contacting your dealer and the Customer Assistance Center, you are still not satisfied we have done our best to remedy this condition without charge and within a reasonable time, you may wish to write the Administrator, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE, Washington DC 20590, or call the toll-free Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1.888.327.4236 (TTY 1.800.424.9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov.

Federal regulation requires that any vehicle lessor receiving this recall notice must forward a copy of this notice to the lessee within ten days.

Scott Lawson

Director,

Customer and Relationship Services

Enclosure

09047

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