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Which is better to replace my old Bell & Gossett series 100

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Which is better to replace my old Bell & Gossett series 100 circulator pump?

-replace with the same oil lubricated model?
-Armstrong S-25?
-Grundfos?
-TACO?
-Bell & Gossett NRF-22?

Thank You

Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Plumbing
Expert:  Harry replied 1 year ago.


195864 :

Hello and welcome to Just Answer. If you have any questions after I give my answer just let me know

Customer :

how long approx for you to answer?

195864 :

All the brands you mention are very good, but I would agree with you. I personaly like and use the bell & gossett line they are always very dependible as you know.

Customer :

series 100 need to be oiled and noisy. I would prefer to avoid oiling and less noise, but I want this pump to last 15 years + as my old one, and I am concerned about newer model.

Customer :

Have you installed or replaced hot water circulator pumps in the past?

195864 :

Yes In both boiler circulation and domestic hot water . If your interested in a quiet pump with no I oiling would suggest the Grundfos line, it has sealed bearings and is extremly quiet.

Customer :

What I am looking for is information about the reliability of these pumps between different models. When i ask plumbers what they want to install, they are biased and I do not get the evidence of which model has the best reliability. How can I get info about reliability, how many years these pumps can last?

195864 :

I dont think I will be able to help you make that decision so I will opt out of this question Thank You

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Welcome to justanswer, I will be glad to help you with your problem.

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Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Hello, are you still on

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

Yes, what is your answer to my problem?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

Are you on line?

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Sorry, my computer froze and I lost you, You already paid for the answer,by mistake

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

Yes, I paid by mistake and and don't really believe that I can get an answer that will help me. I have asked to a few plumbers, and nobody can really tell me which pump is the most reliable (with facts) so that I can take a decision. My question:

What I am looking for is information about the reliability of these pumps between different models. When i ask plumbers what they want to install, they are biased and I do not get the evidence of which model has the best reliability. How can I get info about reliability, how many years these pumps can last?

Do you really believe that you can help me?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

are you on line?

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Hi, I have used all three pumps over about 30years. My main one was the B&G. I installed one on my new house , 10 years later the seals went out on it. Its a easy fix if your handy and pump last for years.I Yes I am on-line I am answering your question .

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

Which one has the best reliability?

-Bell & Gossett series 100
-Armstrong S-25
-GrundfosUPS-15
-TACO 007
-Bell & Gossett NRF-22

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

I also have a problem with the seal on my Bell & Gossett series 100 which I have for 15 years. Does it mean that I can get the pump or just the seal changed?

Plumbers say that I should change to a newer model, but relaibility is going to be only a few years, and they want $500 for this. This is why I am not sure I I shouldn't get a new series 100. What should I get?

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

I switched to Groundos and used them for 20 years with no problem. Most of my plumber friends use them the most. Hope this helps you. Sorry for the long wait I having some problem with my computer

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Just change the seal, they last for years

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

Can I expect 15 years of service fron a Grundfos? I am also concerned as the Groundfos has less horse power than series 100.

Can I get the seal changed on my current series 100?

is a pump like this worth $410 + labor $100?

can the Grundfos replace the series 100 without the need to modify the plumbing?

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Does this help you ?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

The plumbers I called said that the pump need to be changed. Do they need to buy a replacement seal and is it easy to change?

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

I would change seals , bearings, or what ever. I seen BG last for 40 years

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Yes it is very easy to change, read the directions good on package.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

How much time should a plumber take to remove the pump, fix it and put it back? One hour?

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Yes, tho if you don't have isolating vales he will have to drain some of or all the system, may take longer.

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Also you have to add his travel time to your place and back

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Do you have any more questions?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

It does not seem that I will be able to find a plumber to fix the pump, and I will need to get it changed. I really wanted to know which one is the most reliable:
-Bell & Gossett series 100
-Armstrong S-25
-Grundfos UPS-15
-TACO 007
-Bell & Gossett NRF-22?

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

You can't go wrong with the B&G for reliable, also the grundfos I had many over 20 years with no problems. It is just like anything else, you may get a faulty one from any manf. esp the way they make things today.

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Also the B&G to some over 20 years, as long as you oil and don't over oil them

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

Is That all ?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

the whole thing started when a plumber from a large heating support group said that the best I can get of any pump other than the original series 100 is 8 years

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

Should I get a Grundfos and get my plumbing adapted, although it has less power and may be less reliable?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

I have isolation valves

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

If it was me, I wouldn't be afraid of the Grundfos, I had good luck with them.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

thank you

Expert:  Plumbisman replied 1 year ago.

your welcome, good night

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