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The frozen section could be concealed in a wall or ceiling.
There are 2 ways to deal with this.
and that is?
Either get a salamander heater (portable job site heater) and raise the temp of the space where any of the piping might pass through
or use a pipe tahwing machine if you have copper tubing for piping
sorry that should be pipe thawing
which is essentially a modified arc welder
most of the pipe are exposed in the basement
if all the piping in the loop is accessible you could use your torch to thaw it out
but you need to very carefully play the torch along all the piping in the loop not just the fittings
thats what i did and that why i came to this site
did you heat all the pipe in the loop?
yes all that i could reach
then you can't get to some of it
just the pipe that goes threw the floor
Then my original answer applies. Those are your only options
if this zone is on the first floor try playing the heat on the piping above the floor as well
some of the pipes go along the foundation and up along the foundation
my guess would be that your frozen section would be along the foundation
try heating up this area with your torch
just keep the flame away from anything flammable
yesterday i open the drain valve on that zone and some hot water came out the stoped
if there is craft faced insulation get it out of there before you heat that area
if you opened a purge station and the water stopped then you probably have a frozen line
should i leave it open when i do that
it doesn't matter but leaving it open will let you know when it thaws out
because it is after the pump
turn the thermostat way down on the frozen zone so the pump won't run
which has a valve between the pump and the drain valve if i leave the valve open it will come out but if i close it it will come out the stop
if you leave the valve open you are getting water from the boiler. if you close the valve the only water that can come out of the drain would be through that loop
but what is going to push the water thought the pipe if the pump is not on
the pressure in the system
you should have at least 10 psi on the system
well let me try it then
it didnt work
what didn't work. I gave you several options. Did you try them all?
i put a space heater in the dining room witch has no heat the living room has a pellet stove so i think that is why i got the frozen pipe in the first place because the heat controls both and the dining room and living room
you need to put heat in the basement, that's where the frozen pipe probably is.
you told me that you have to raise the temp in the room that the pipe are
there are pipes in the basement ?
".... get a salamander heater (portable job site heater) and raise the temp of the space where any of the piping might pass through"
that is not going to work in my basement becuse it is filled with stuff and the fire marshell will have me for lunch
then your only option is to wait for it to warm up or hire a plumber with a pipe thawing machine
once it's thawed out it would be a good idea to fill the system with anti-freeze so this doesn't happen again.
how do you put it in the ststem
antifreeze is pumped in under pressure
you will probably need a plumber to do it
this why i came to this site so that i didnt have to call a plumber this is the first time useing this site that my problem was not solved
All I can do is propose solutions. If you don't have the equipment or expertise to remedy the problem I can't help you from here.
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thank you any way
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