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hi we have a young to mid aged bearded dragon rescued about 6 months ago when someone threw her out didnt take long for her to get real active and happy
i dont actually know its a girl
we feed her pellets aproved veggies and crikets sometimes dusted with vitamins
all of a sudden in the last couple days she wont eat not even crickets shes sleepy all the time and hiding under log
please help

 

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Pet's Age: 2
Name of Animal: princess

Already Tried:
not sure gender so far just gave tank a real good cleaning it wasnt very dirty

Submitted: 281 days and 19 hours ago.
Category: Reptile
Value: $30
Status: CLOSED
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Expert:  Joan replied 281 days and 19 hours ago.

Hello,
Can you tell me about the set up?

Diet prey/veggies?

Substrate/bedding?

Temps and how measured?

Supplements?

UVB light? Tube or coil? How old is the bulb and strength?

Do you have a basking light?

Is she passing stool?

Joan

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Customer replied 281 days and 19 hours ago.

30" x12" tank

crickets pellets approved veg vitamin dust on crickets couple times a week

bedding is news papper

tank is 90-100 at 100 right now

both bulbs under 2 months old

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Expert:  Joan replied 281 days and 19 hours ago.

Hello,

I need a little more specific information on lighting:

UVB light? Tube or coil? Name the bulb brand and strength?

Are you using a plain calcium?

Are you offering any veggies?

Joan

Customer replied 281 days and 19 hours ago.

day light basking spot bulb 50 watt

heat glow infrared heat lamp

repashy superfoods bearded dragon calcium plus

zucini green peppers sweet potatoes

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Expert:  Joan replied 281 days and 19 hours ago.

Hello,

You confirmed what I was concerned about, that you do not have a UVB bulb. The UVB is needed to supply artificial sunlight which metabolizes the calcium in the body which turns into D3 which prevents Metabolic Bone Disease. This is some information on lighting: http://www.anapsid.org/uvtable.html

 

 

The basking area is a little too cool should have 105*-110*F and the cool side of the tank in the 85* range. This is important for digestion and passing of stool as well as for the activity level. If the temperatures are too cool the Dragon will shut down since they cannot thermoregulate their body temperature.

 

 

I recommend a reptisun 10.0 florescent tube that runs the length of the tank or a Mercury Vapor Bulb. They put out the greatest amount of UVB rays needed for health. This is a link for UVB and about the different bulb output: http://www.beautifuldragons.com/Researchmain.html

 

 

The lights should run 12-14 hours a day. The UVB need

s to be changed every 6 months. The coil bulbs are dangerous to the Dragons eyes. Compact UVB problems: http://www.uvguide.co.uk/phototherapyphosphor-info.htm

 

 

The UVB bulb or MVB should not have any plastic between it and the Dragon. The tube type needs to run the length of the tank and be no more than 12" from the Dragon. Both UVB/MVB or basking lights should run daily for 12-14 hours a day. UVB cannot penetrate glass and the UVB rays which are needed to metabolize calcium.

 

 

You should be offering chopped Collard greens, mustard greens, dandelion greens, escarole and curly endives. Butternut squash and various berries are great for a treat. The Veggies should be put in fresh daily, and done about an hour after lights on. Note: Too many carrots can cause some eye issues. Kale and Spinach can bind calcium.

 

 

They need 80% veggies daily and 20% live prey over a year of age. The live prey should include crickets, silk worms, roaches, goliath worms and phoenix worms.This is where you can order silk worms and phoenix worms: http://www.coastalsilkworms.com/ and http://www.mulberryfarms.com/

 

 

Super worms and wax worms are like giving the Dragon candy. All veggies and
prey should be dusted with calcium daily 5 days a week and vitamins 2 days a week.

 

 

I would suggest a Herp Vet visit to rule out any medical problems as well as
there may be a parasite issue. I can locate a Herp Vet with a State.

 

Right now to help your Dragon, we can do a soak on 50/50 warm water and plain Pedialyte to help with hydration. This usually will perk up a Dragon. You do not have to make it any higher than mid way up the legs.

 

I suggest for supplemental feeding that we try some chicken baby food stage 1 mixed with calcium powder and some Royal Jelly which can be gotten in capsule form(can be gotten at any health food store) and opened into the baby food mixture. Drop on the snout and allow Princess to lick it off. Do not try to force feed as it can cause apiration Pneumonia.

 

 

Please hit Reply to Expert, if I can assist you further, and I will be happy to continue with you. If you are happy with my Answer, Please press the Smiley Face in the Rating Box, so I can be compensated for my answer. I am here to help.



Joan



Bearded Dragon Care Sheet



  • Bearded dragons should be housed alone.



  • Ages of bearded dragons follow these guidelines:

1. 0-3 months- baby
2. 3-12 months-juvenile
3. 12-18 months- sub

adult
4. 18 months + -adult



  • Bearded dragons live as much as 10-12 years if well cared for properly.


  • Bearded dragons have a very good temperament as long as they are cared for

    and handled.


  • When you bring your baby home, it may be quite stressful to him/her to get

    use to new home. May not eat well the first 2-3 days. They may not need to
    be
    handled the first 2-3 days if skittish and nervous.


  • Never use sand or any other type of loose substrate: Loose substrates can

    cause impaction (not being able to go Poop) in all ages of bearded dragons-
    they
    lick their environment to explore .It is difficult to keep germ free
    and clean.
    Ceramic tile, newspaper, non adhesive shelf liner and reptile
    carpet is what is
    most recommended. Use paper towels for the little one and
    as they get bigger you
    can change to something else.


  • Be sure you keep your beardies home as clean as you can. Clean up by spot

    cleaning when needed. Clean & sanitize entire tank every 10-14 days. A
    good
    cleaning solution is a 20% bleach solution. If you choose to use wood
    climbing
    branches etc, these should be soaked in the bleach solution and
    rinsed well.
    Then bake in 250 degree oven for 30 minutes.


  • Need a climbing accessory: to bask and to warm up under basking heat light

    and lower branches or platforms to come down and cool off.


  • A hide of some sort like a cave.


  • A food dish and water dish.


  • Plastic spray bottle


  • Can use artificial plants when they get older- 3 months or so.


  • Digital thermostat and/or temp gun


  • Tank size: Minimal size tank for this age is 20 gallon long


  • Minimal size for older beardie: 4 months of age: 40 gallon breeder is the

    minimal tank size for older dragon. Can divide a 40 gallon breeder for a
    smaller
    dragon. Must have two lights for your beardie.

1. A UVB light source-best is 10.0 Reptisun that runs the length of your

tank. Your dragon must have this light to metabolize calcium. If not he will
get
metabolic bone disease, a serious condition. You can also take your
beardie
outside to bask in the sun for 15 minutes each day if your temps are
80 degrees
or above outside. You can purchase cages or reptariums from your
pet store.
Never leave a beardie outside unattended.
2. A basking type
light that puts
out heat and warmth above basking spot. Your beardie must
have warmth to digest
food & thrive.



  • Lights should be on for 12-14 hours each day. Follow the seasons and light

    timers are a great luxury if you can get them. 6 dollars at Lowe's. No
    lights or
    warmth needed at night unless your temperatures get below 62
    degrees. If they
    do, there are ceramic heat emitters that put out no light,
    only heat. Use these
    at night if temperatures fall below 62 degrees.


  • Temperatures have to be kept at the following ranges during the day:

Babies: Warm basking log: 105-125 degrees F
Cool side: 85-90
Adults:

Warm basking spot: 110-115
Cool side: 80-85
Measure temperatures
with a
digital probe type thermometer or a temp gun-these are most accurate.
Stick on
thermometers unreliable.



  • Feeding a Beardie: Beardies eat live prey consisting of crickets, roaches

    and/or silkworms. Never feed any size of mice to your beardie. Never feed
    meal
    worms. They also must be given greens/veggies everyday. The younger
    they are the
    more live prey they should have. As they grow older the live
    prey decreases and
    the veggies/greens should be the major part of diet.
    Never feed anything bigger,
    than the space between your beardie's eyes. This
    includes both live prey and
    pieces of veggies/greens,


  • A chopper or food processor is a huge help when your beardie is small.

    Always offer greens and veggies: collard greens, turnip greens, mustard
    greens,
    cabbage, red cabbage, fresh green beans, yellow summer squash,
    butternut squash,
    sweet potato, cactus pad. Apricots, strawberries, apples,
    blueberries,
    raspberries, cantaloupe- fruits are treats only.


  • What is live prey? The easiest and less expensive live prey is crickets when

    you have a young or first beardie. The other live preys you can feed are

    silkworms, and special types of roaches. You can learn to raise your own
    live
    prey. Treats can be wax worms, super worms, and tomato/Goliath worms.
    You may
    find that ordering live prey from the internet is the way to go.....
    Never leave
    live prey or greens/veggies in tank overnight. . Crickets can
    bite your beardie
    when sleeping.


  • Babies should get 80% live prey, and 20 % greens/veggies. But since the

    greens/veggies are a must when they are older, get them eating their

    greens/veggies very early. Give greens/veggies in small pieces everyday. You

    should eventually start decreasing your older dragon's protein intake when
    they
    are about a year to 15 months old. Their protein intake decreases to 20
    % live
    prey and 80% veggies/greens.


  • A baby eat 50-75 crix a day depending on the size of the crickets. Never

    feed crix or veggies bigger than the space between your beardie's eyes. Use
    this
    guide when buying crix or chopping your greens/veggies.


  • You must provide calcium dust without D3 and multivitamin dust for your

    beardie. You should dust the live prey with calcium one time a day, and
    vitamins
    3 times a week. Just collect your live prey into baggie and add
    enough calcium
    and vitamin to dust them. Then pour a few at a time into your
    tank. Some people
    feed their beardie in a separate tank so that no crickets
    can hide. Or some take
    out "furniture" from tank and feed this way. As they
    get older, 4-5 months or so
    dust live prey with calcium 3 times a week.


  • Feed the veggies/ greens 1st thing in morning after lights on for one hour

    at least. Then after 2-3 hours offer crix. Then freshen green/veggies. Then
    give
    more crix. Make sure after last crix feeding there is at least 1-2
    hours of
    lights so that they can digest their food before night time.

*Beardies over the age of one year old during the winter

months will go into a Brumation like most Reptiles and Herps. It is a form
of
Hibernation that is governed by the weather and time of year. The lights
should
be on a shorter period at this time. Fresh greens should be available
during
this period. Do not feed live prey during Brumation.

Water: Mist your little one with the spray bottle 3-4 times a day. You can

also offer a small dish of water in your enclosure but be sure your dragon
is
not too small to drown in it. It is recommended that when your beardie is
2
months old you can bathe your baby in a small plastic container with warm
water-
not hot. It will help them to stay hydrated. As they get older you
can move up
to the bathroom sink and then to the bathtub. Very important for
bath enclosure
to be thoroughly cleaned and rinsed prior to bath time. Clean
between dragons
too if bathing more than one.

If you have any further questions feel free to ask. I like to start people

off with proper husbandry and then see if I can further assist.


This is for fruits and Vegetables

Nutrition chart: http://www.beautifuldragons.com/Nutritionframeset.html



Sand as a substrate: http://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/impaction/?page=3

Walnut shell Graphic: http://mrskingsbioweb.com/beardeddragngrossanatomy.htm

sexing bearded Dragons: http://repticzone.com/articles/sexingbeardeddragons.html

Joan41088.0349107986

Customer replied 281 days and 19 hours ago.

will i be able to print your answers after i hit smiley face?

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Expert:  Joan replied 281 days and 19 hours ago.

Hello,

Please copy and paste the information to a word processor document and you will be able to print the information. It will still be available here for you at any time, if you bookmark the page. If you need a Herp Vet, please supply a state and I will locate some for you. Joan

Customer replied 281 days and 19 hours ago.

north olmsted ohio 44070

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Expert:  Joan replied 281 days and 18 hours ago.

Hi,

This is a link for all Herp Vets that I have listed in Ohio: http://www.anapsid.org/vets/ohio.html

You may have to travel a bit, but they are specialists and a regular Vet does not have the knowledge to treat properly becuase of the anatomy.

Joan

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Customer replied 281 days and 18 hours ago.

how long for the pedialyte bath?

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Expert:  Joan replied 281 days and 18 hours ago.

Hi,

I like 20 mins of a 50/50 warm water and Pedialyte soak. Dragons absorn fluids through the Vent area, so this helps dehydration. make sure that you get the UVB or MVB bulb asap that will make a big difference in activity levels. Joan

Customer replied 281 days and 18 hours ago.

ty stores closed we are going forst thing in the morning

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Expert:  Joan replied 281 days and 18 hours ago.

Hi,

I hope all goes well! Keep me updated. Joan

Customer replied 281 days and 7 hours ago.

hi the pet store by me only has uba bulbs

should i go to another

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Expert:  Joan replied 281 days and 3 hours ago.

Hi,

If you cannot get a UVB at that shop, try another shop or ask for a Mercury Vapor Bulb. Those two bulbs put out UVB and the other do not.

This is one place that you can order, but it shows you what they look like:

http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/reptile-supplies/uvb-fluorescent-lights-mercury-vapor-bulbs/

http://www.bigappleherp.com/REPTILE-SUPPLIES/Mercury-Vapor-Bulbs

http://www.bigappleherp.com/Exo-Terra-Repti-Glo-10-0-Fluorescent-Lamps?sc=2&category=19

This is Petco: http://www.petco.com/product/102889/Zoo-Med-Reptisun-100-UVB-Bulb-for-Reptiles.aspx?CoreCat=OnSiteSearch

Joan

Customer replied 281 days and 2 hours ago.

I got the reprising 10.0 today how long should I expect to see her improve
Also I now have the 3 lights
How should I use them?

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Expert:  Joan replied 281 days and 1 hours ago.

Hi,

You need to use two bulbs for the day time 12-14 hours. The reptisun tube for UVB and the regular bulb for basking. At night you do not have use any light unless it is very cold and at that point you can use the red light bulb or a ceramic heat emitter. This will give you an idea on set up. Joan


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