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My Chinese Water Dragon is very sick, I was wondering if you

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My Chinese Water Dragon is very sick, I was wondering if you could help me out? I went to spend some time with him lastnight, when I went to pick him up off of his branch he just fell over onto his back and was not very responsive. I rubbed his extremeties, soaked him in some 88 degree water, made sure he drank a bit of fresh water, and kept a close eye on him. He is more responsive today, but he don't "run" or "crawl" he seams very weak, struggling to hold onto a branch or hand, and kind of just "slides" on the floor when he tries to move. Also he is keeping his mouth open a lot, and taking what looks like deep strugling breaths, however this is only a small amout of the time. There are no reptile Dr's around here. Please help if you can.
Submitted: 3 years ago.
Category: Reptile
Expert:  Anna replied 3 years ago.
Hello,

some additional information will help me to answer your question.

What symptoms are you seeing - weakness, legs not working right, breathing problems, appetite loss, constipation, diarrhea, lethargy, etc.?

How old is your dragon?

What types of lighting and heating equipment do you have?

What substrate is on the floor?

What do you feed? Any supplements?

How do you keep the humidity up?

What are your usual temperatures in the basking area and on the cool side of the cage?

Thank you.

Anna
Customer: replied 3 years ago.
He is very weak, I could have sworn he/she would not have made the night. He will not eat, honestly because I don't think he has the energy or ability, and yes he is very lethargic. I don't know his age, I have had him for 10 months, I got him from the pet store he was about 7" long counting the tail. I use a mecury vapor bulbe on him at least once per day for an hour, sometimes many more to keep the heat up. The substrate is wood bark chips from the pet store, I clean this about once every other week (take out old, put in new). I feed him crickets, and superworms, I spray them both with calcium spray. I use a mist bottle to try to keep the humidity up around 80%, sometimes I run a "fogger" on the more dry summer days. his basking area can get up to 91 sometimes, but usualy stays around 88 with the bottom (its a tall terrarium) around 83-84. Anything else?
Expert:  Anna replied 3 years ago.
Thank you - that will help. I'm working on your answer, and will post it as soon as it is typed up. I appreciate your patience.

Please don't reply to this post as that can lock me out so I won't be able to post your answer.

I'll be back shortly.

Anna

Expert:  Anna replied 3 years ago.
Thank you for waiting. I'll start you with a first aid measure. You're on the right track with baths, but we can make them better. Buy some unflavored Pedialyte (yes, the kind for human infants), and prepare a shallow warm bath consisting of 1/2 water and 1/2 Pedialyte. Soak your dragon for about 20 to 30 minutes. Repeat this twice a day. That will help with any dehydration.

Another way to help is to make sure the temperature in the enclosure is kept at 85 to 90 degrees day and night. The bottom of the cage should be 85*F.While it's usually recommended that the temperature be lowered at night, when they're sick, it's better to keep them warm all the time.

Normally, you’ll want daytime temperatures between 84* and 88* F and night time temperatures between 75* and 80* F . You also need to leave that mercury vapor bulb on for at least 12 hours every day. It provides UVB light as well as warmth. Water dragons need that UVB light every day or an illness called Metabolic Bone disease (MBD) develops. It causes a slow and painful death. If someone in a pet store told you otherwise, they were wrong.Without adequate UVB, calcium can't be metabolized. Your dragon may already be in the beginning stages, but with both adequate UVB and calcium, it can be reversed. If the light makes the cage too warm when it's on for 12 hours, move it up higher. Just make sure nothing blocks the rays - no plastic or screen between it and your dragon.

You may want to consider a different substrate. Bark tends to dry out quickly, and can lead to impaction and eye infections. Water dragons need humidity at 80%. It’s difficult to keep it that high. After months or years of low humidity, it can have an affect on their health. Soil holds moisture much better. Live plants in the enclosure, misting several times a day, and keeping a solid cover over part of the top can all increase humidity. If you use a cover, don’t block your UVB light with it.

I suspect that you got your information on care from pet store personnel. Unfortunately, such information is often inaccurate. While pet owners should be able to rely on pet stores, the staff there is often not well-informed. The stores are in business to sell things, not to ensure the animals’ health. Many reptiles die each year because of it. The following link has much information on care. It’s really like a whole book on water dragons. I highly recommend it as a source of information.

http://www.triciaswaterdragon.com/dragoncr.htm


Water dragons are omnivores, and they also need plant foods to prevent nutritional imbalances. Many different fruits and vegetables can be used. If the dragon won’t eat them, they can be used to gutload crickets, and get them into the dragon indirectly. Here’s a link to a section on diet from the above site:

http://www.triciaswaterdragon.com/diet.htm

Many times, the cause of appetite loss and weakness is simply that conditions haven't been quite right for several months. Try leaving the light on and a Pedilayte soak. If your dragon doesn't perk up in a few hours, he is most likely truly sick, and will need to be seen by a reptile vet. He may have a bacterial infection, parasites, or another issue needing treatment. This link will take you to a directory of reptile vets if you end up needing one:

http://www.anapsid.org/vets/index.html#vetlist

You may want to read through the information there to see if there are other changes you’ll want to make. If you have more questions, just let me know by clicking on REPLY. I hope your dragon will be fine.

Anna


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