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I have a Catahoula/Australian Border Collie mix that is 2 yrs.

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I have a Catahoula/Australian Border Collie mix that is 2 yrs. old and about 47 lbs. She became disoriented, and circled until she could not control her back legs and then struggled to walk and started what I would view as symptoms of a seizure. Her eyes were also dilated during this time.   She finally lay still but was panting and breathing very heavily. This lasted for about 10 mins. and then she lay down and seemed to return to normal. Any suggestions or what the problem might be and should I take her to the vet ASAP or wait for further symptoms?
Submitted: 8 years ago.
Category: Dog
Customer: replied 8 years ago.

Age: 2; Female; Breed: Aus. Border Collie/Catahoula


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Expert:  Dr.Fiona replied 8 years ago.
Hi thereCustomer
Welcome to Just Answer! I would like to help you with this question, but need a bit more information in order to better assist you.

How long ago was it that this happened?

Is she ok now?

Is she on any medications at all, or have you used any flea control products on her recently?

Fiona
Customer: replied 8 years ago.
This happened about a half hour ago, but this is the 2nd time in 3 months that this has happened...that I have witnessed. She is not on any medications and I have not applied a flea treatment for 30 days or more. She is okay now and seems like nothing happened although she wants to stay close to me.
Expert:  Dr.Fiona replied 8 years ago.
Hmmm....

I'll give you a link to a few youtube videos that show seizuring dogs, so you can compare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98X7b6_Z_wQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqINF8EPtMg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yV7OyEsVGw

is this what your dog is doing?

Customer: replied 8 years ago.
It was much like the third video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yV7OyEsVGw) but she was more active in trying to get up and walk but just could not control herself, especially her back legs, she was almost dragging them and then she would lay down and that is when her actions resembled the video you sent. She was also very stressed and panting/breathing heavily. She also seemed very disoriented, vut did not bark or whine.
Expert:  Dr.Fiona replied 8 years ago.
Ahhhh... ok, that does sound like a seizure! I am going to go write up a detailed answer for you and will be back in about 15 minutes....


Expert:  Dr.Fiona replied 8 years ago.
Hi again,

You have described to me a Catahoula/Australian Border Collie mix that is 2 yrs. old and has had 2 seizures in the last 3 months. As long as she does not have another seizure tonight, you don't need to take her to an emergency vet tonight, though she should see her family veterinarian in the next few days.

Let me explain....


Seizures can be caused by a large number of different things. Some of these things are things INSIDE the brain, and some are by things OUTSIDE the brain. Examples of things inside the brain are infections and trauma (a recent hit on the head), and epilepsy. Examples of things outside the brain are low blood sugar and certain toxins.

The way we determine what is causing the seizures is to start with checking to see if this is caused by something outside the brain. This is done by taking a blood sample and running a number of tests. The vet would check yourdog's liver and kidney function, check for diabetes and test her for various parasites (which can migrate through the brain and cause problems).

If these were all normal, your vet might suggest further testing aimed at seeing what is going on inside the brain. These tests might include a CSF tap to get a sample of the fluid around the brain, and/or an MRI of the brain. Many owners find these brain tests prohibitively expensive, and may elect to attempt treatment without test results. In that case, the vet would make a tentative diagnosis and start treatment (such as phenobarbital if epilepsy were suspected or prednisone if an inflammatory condition were suspected).

With a sudden onset of seizures in a dog of this age, my top two considerations would be EPILEPSY or an INFLAMMATORY condition (GME - more below). However, the seizures could be evidence of an an electrolyte imbalance (such as low potassium, which can happen with kidney problems).

After the dog has recovered from a seizure (usually this "post-ictal phase" lasts less than an hour), she is back to her normal self.

I'll give you links to more information about seizures:
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1&cat=1321&articleid=224
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&S=0&C=0&A=560

And about epilepsy:
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&cat=1828&articleid=433

and about GME:
http://www.petplace.com/dogs/granulomatous-meningoencephalomyelitis-gme/page1.aspx

Often, when seizures start, they are many months apart, and start getting closer together very slowly. We generally treat an animal once the seizures are closer than one a month. We usually recommend that a dog come in for testing after she has had two or more seizures. The goal of treatment is to keep the seizures at no more than one a month, so treatment might not be needed at this time with your dog if this is due to epilepsy, which would be at the top of the list of possible causes.

Here are some ideas on how to keep her as safe as possible during a seizure:
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&S=0&C=0&A=376

The other thing that I should mention is that it would be very helpful to your vet if you were able to video tape an episode! It really helps to be able to see the whole patient during an episode, but also to see her face and jaws and eyes during the episode.

If this has been helpful, please accept my answer and leave feedback. If you need more information, just click on reply and I will still be here to provide it!

The above is given for information only. Although I am a licensed veterinarian, I cannot legally prescribe medicines or diagnose your pet's condition without performing a physical exam. If you have concerns about your pet I would strongly advise contacting your regular veterinarian.

Fiona


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