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hello where i work they have an avairy with about 15 budgies

 
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hello where i work they have an avairy with about 15 budgies 2 wearios (was three) and 2 doves. I went in the aviary yesterday to clean the cage and noticed that one of the wearios had died and its eyes were gone. While I was in there the two doves kept chasing the yellow weario away from the food and pecking it. One of the doves has a damaged wing but can still fly. The doves haven't always been like this just latley I have noticed that they are becoming really obsessed with the large food dish. I went there again today to check on the birds and the dove with the hurt wing was chasing the yellow weario again so I caught the dove and put it in a box (like a nesting box) with food and water just until monday so the weario is safe was that ok to do? I didnt know what to do the vet is meant to be coming this week to do a health check on all the birds. What else can I do? I dont understand why the doves have started to do this. Was that ok to put the dove in the box it has a perch in it and lots of room and it can still see the other birds. Any advice would be great thank you

 

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Type of Animal: Dove

Already Tried:
seperating the dove putting more food in cage

Submitted: 279 days and 14 hours ago.
Category: Bird
Value: AU$47
Status: CLOSED
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Expert:  MsAM replied 279 days and 12 hours ago.

Hello,

I apologize that no one has responded to your question sooner. Different experts come online at various times. I just came online and saw your question. First of all, it was fine to put the dove in a box. Some additional information will be helpful.

What kind of food is in the dish that the doves are protecting?

What are all the kinds of food provided to the birds?

How long have they all been in this aviary together? How big is it?

Are any of the birds nesting?

Thank you.

Anna

Customer replied 279 days and 11 hours ago.

hello thank you for replying Anna. Its a sunflower mix that the doves are protecting they also have trill seed and budgie mix but the one the doves are protecting is the sun flower mix. None of the birds are nesting and they have been in the aviary for about 3 years now. It is a walk in avairy it is a very large aviary. Should the dove with the injured wing be taken out all together its only lately the doves have started doing this, can I take the dove out of the box when I go back to work on Monday


 

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Expert:  MsAM replied 279 days and 11 hours ago.

Thank you for getting back to me. It sounds like your workplace has a lovely aviary. I'm having trouble finding out about wearios that are kept as pets. Will you tell me a little more about them. I believe they may be what we call vireos here in the states.

Are they native to Australia?

Are they small song birds?

Sorry for so many questions, but this information will help.

Anna

Customer replied 279 days and 11 hours ago.

sorry they are also known as a Cockatiel is the smallest cockatoo endemic to Australia. They are prized as a household pets and companion parrot throughout the world and are relatively easy to breed. Cockatiels are native to the outback regions of inland Australia, and favour the Australian wetlands, scrublands, and bush lands.

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Expert:  MsAM replied 279 days and 10 hours ago.

Thank you! Yes, I'm very familiar with cockatiels. I’m working on your answer and will post it as soon as I have it typed up. (I'm not an extremely fast typist). Please don’t respond to this post as that can lock me out of the question. I’ll be back shortly.

Anna

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Expert:  MsAM replied 279 days and 10 hours ago.

Thank you for waiting. The biggest part of the problem is that doves and parrot family birds should not be housed together. It is unusual for doves to be the aggressors.What sometimes happens is that the more active birds, such as budgies and cockatiels harass the doves, until they can't take it any more, and fight back. Such fighting may have occurred when no one was watching, resulting in the dove's wing injury and the death of the cockatiel. It's also very possible that the cockatiel simply died, and the other birds then plucked out the eyes.

Another reason not to house these two types of birds together is that the food requirements for these birds are not the same. Doves should rely more on grains, such as those fed to poultry. Budgies and cockatiels do best on a complete pelleted diet.

That being said, people do keep mixed aviaries successfully. There must be lots of greenery, perches of all different types and sizes, and ways to give individual birds privacy. If you want to try to reintroduce the dove, I would do it only when you can keep an eye on the situation. Get rid of the sunflower seeds. They should be a treat only. They aren't really good for most birds - they are like candy to them, and that will be all they eat given the opportunity. That may be the trigger for the fights. Put out bowls of grains for the doves. Diet is the single most important factor in keeping our birds healthy. Many people still feed a diet consisiting mostly of seeds, but recent research has shown that an all-seed diet is not good for cockatiels and budgies. Pellets, supplemented with various fresh and healthy “people foods,” along with just a few seeds make up a healthier diet. Birds that are fed mostly seeds tend to develop fatty liver disease, tumors, and other health conditions. however, if your birds are used to eating mostly seeds, you’ll have to convert them to pellets gradually. The following website is where you can get reliable information on feeding and care:

http://www.4animalcare.org/birds

It may help to put out many more food dishes. In summary, I would eliminate the bowl of sunflower seeds, try to arrange the cage for more privacy, and watch the birds closely for any signs of trouble. If these steps don't help, it may become necessary to find a new home for the doves or provide them a separate cage.

If you have more questions, let me know by clicking on REPLY. I hope the situation will work out well for you.

Anna

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Customer replied 279 days and 10 hours ago.

thank you so much for your advice i really appreaciate it. You have been so helpful thank you.

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Expert:  MsAM replied 279 days and 10 hours ago.

You're welcome. Good luck with helping the birds get along.

Anna

Customer replied 278 days and 21 hours ago.

just one last question sorry i forgot to ask last night- so if i slowly take away the sun flower mix and give them the food that they should have and keep an eye on them they should be ok. i will get the vet to have a look at the doves wing too what will they do to the dove can the wing be fixed? it can fly still would the dove be in pain? thanks anna

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Expert:  MsAM replied 278 days and 21 hours ago.

First about the wing: what the vet can do will depend on the nature of the injury. If it's broken, it can be set. If it's bruised or sprained, it will eventually heal on its own. The vet will have to examine the dove to determine what is going on.

I can't promise you the birds will get along if you take all the measures I outlined. That will just increase the chances they will. Since birds are living creatures and individuals, there si no way to know how they will react. the reason for keeping an eye on them is so they cna be separated if there's a problem. I do hope that won't be necessary.

Anna

Expert TypeBird Expert, Biologist
Category: Bird
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Experience: Have owned and/or raised parakeets, finches, cockatiels, and poultry over a period of thirty years.

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