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GM Tech Cam, Oldsmobile Certified Technician
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Experience:  14 years Automotive experience all with Gm.
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My 2001 olds driver window not working neither gas

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My 2001 olds driver window not working neither gas cover,trunk release, electric mirrors, etc
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Oldsmobile
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

hi there, I am Cam. Can you confirm that these are all functions in the same assembly or that they all failed at the same time?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Failed at the same time.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Other Windows work fine and door locks. Would the valet button have any thing to do with the problem.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
No broken wires, fuses ok ground fine front and back.
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

Lets check the DRV MDL fuse in the fuse block in the rear under the seat. This powers the drivers door module and controls those items.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Ok will check in morning. I am working tonight. Will get back to ya.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Fuse ok
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

Ok, are you able to get to the drivers door module in the drivers door and check the wiring for power and ground? There are 2 orange wires that should have power, 1 black and one black white that need ground. These are the power and ground to the drivers door module.

In left front door behind the trim panel in the upper right corner of the door

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
two small orange wire side by side 1st has power and 2nd no power. There is a larger orange wire on another connection to the module that has power
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

Large orange wire has no power. Correct? That large where is fed by the power seat circuit breaker in the rear fuse block. IF that has power, then we need to look for a broken wire in the door boot to the door from the body. Without power to that wire, the module won’t operate.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
the large orange wire has power. The second orange wire had no power on another connection to the door module.
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

The smaller one does not, that gets its power from the DRV MDL fuse, same issue, broken wires.

Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

As a test, if you jump power from one orange to the other, do those items start working again?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I din't have the plug into the module when I was testing. They all got power 2 small orange and one large orange
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

And do the items operate then with it plugged in now?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
No
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

Ok do you see evidence of water intrusion into that switch, wiring or the door module? With the wiring in tact I am thinking the door switch or the door module is faulty.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Door module has a sm crack in the back. No water visible. 1/4 inch crack. I disconnected it from the door and found the small crack in the back. ??
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

Crack is not good. It suggests damage and may carry through to the circuit board.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
How much for a new door module or used
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

That I don't have access to the GM parts catalogue, but according to online sources, I am seeing used for about 50$.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Used door module installed today 12/10 and still no go. I have no power going to the door lock button. Should there be power in the orange wire. The door switch u talk about above is that the lock and unlock button.
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

Can I get your Vin?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
1G3GR64H114125235
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

Ok so you have no power going to the switch, that should get its power from the orange going through the module. Since they share the same circuit number, you can splice power from the smaller orange wire going into the module in Pin A8 to the orange going to the switch assembly and see if function is restored.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Did not work.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I even swapped switch from pas side and no go.
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

Lets back up. Do you have power on both orange wires and ground on the thick black and the black white wire?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Power to 3 orange wire no power to and black or black white wires
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

ground to the black wires.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Black wires going to the module no power!
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

The black wires need ground not power. If there is no ground then the module will not work. Can you see if those have a ground, even consider splicing them a new ground.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I spiced the big black wire, took the test light and hook the ground end to it and hit a hot wire and had juice
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

Ok so ground is solid. Lets work through this document, it’s the diagnosis for this.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Need help doing it.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Also got to leave for work. I tore the tape off everthing hunting for broken wires. Found none. Even between door.
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

The scan tool may slow us down.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Still not working.
Expert:  GM Tech Cam replied 1 year ago.

What did you find for each step?