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I was diagnosed with ostioartheritas in Jan. I have put of

 
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I was diagnosed with ostioartheritas in Jan. I have put of surgery. Since then I have started hurting all over my body, different places at different times. pain, twinges, sharp stabbing pains, dull aches, . Would this be due to damaged nerves in my back or something else, ??

 

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Submitted: 276 days and 11 hours ago.
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Expert:  neuromd2012 replied276 days and 11 hours ago.


neuromd2012 :

Hello

neuromd2012 :

are you there

Customer :

hello,

Customer :

yes, sorry

neuromd2012 :

no you are fine so where is your pain?

Customer :

all over, different places at diferent times

Customer :

back, neck, legs, feet, chest, ribs, head,

neuromd2012 :

well you can have a variety of diffuse pain with diffuse osteoarthritis. have you had your vit D level checked?

Customer :

no, don't know what that is

neuromd2012 :

perimenopausal woman lose bone and the degenerative changes can cause pain

neuromd2012 :

well the diffuse osteoarthritis is caused by a condition called osteoporosis

neuromd2012 :

lack of estrogen causes bone thinning, tendon pain , etc

Customer :

vitamin D, sorry,

neuromd2012 :

yes they check your vit d level and give you activated vit d pills

neuromd2012 :

and calcium

Customer :

not always in the bone

neuromd2012 :

there are also new meds like boniva that helps

neuromd2012 :

right so where exactly?

Customer :

they wanted me to get on pain managment, but I was affraid that that would just mask other pains,

Customer :

I just sent a list of where

neuromd2012 :

well it is a quality of life issue really how well can you handle the pain?

neuromd2012 :

you sent a list?

neuromd2012 :

the other thing is the FDA just approved Cymbalta as a treatment for diffuse osteoarthritic pain

Customer :

but again just masking the pain, not fixing it

neuromd2012 :

let me get you a webpage on that drug so you can review it and decide if you are interested. It blocks the ascending pain fibers in the spinal cord by stimulating inhibitory tracts. and it is used in a variety of conditions like fibromyalgia and depression, but now also osteoarthritis. It is masking pain though

Customer :

sorry about the list, guess it got lost.

neuromd2012 :

right, so some things are hard to "fix" without making it worse Osteoarthritis is kind of like that

Customer :

so surgery won't fix it

neuromd2012 :

for example, you really cannot remove all the remodeled bone if you have osteoarthritis in your back. People try it all the time but just cause more pain

neuromd2012 :

well you might get some relief for a few months, but where are you in 2 years?

Customer :

right

neuromd2012 :

you really have to try and stop the process from starting.

that is why the Vit D and calcium and boniva

neuromd2012 :

and that doesn't always work either don't get me wrong, but the fracture percentage in the treated group is better

Customer :

I see

neuromd2012 :

so what surgery did they want to do?

Customer :

do you think the pain all over is caused by the back problem? or can it be something else too?

Customer :

I don't think they put a name on it, other than reeming out the spurs on the bone.

neuromd2012 :

usually for it to be your back it has to be within certain places on your body. for example if the nerves are pinched at L5/S1 disc space, you will have pain down the back of your thighs to your mid calfs, and maybe numbness on your foot

neuromd2012 :

right, osteophytes, but that is a exercise in futility they just come back

Customer :

my legs get tired and hurt when I walk unless I lean on a grocery cart.

neuromd2012 :

stretching exercise, bone health, some people still believe in estrogen replacement

neuromd2012 :

right so that could be osteo in your hips, your sacroiliac joints, your lumbar spine it is diffuse

neuromd2012 :

I do epidural steroid injections in the lumbar spine for symptom relief, but it doesn't cure it

neuromd2012 :

have you tried those?

Customer :

so you don't think the neck pain, is from the back

Customer :

no

Customer :

wouldn't that fall into pain managment?

neuromd2012 :

the neck pain is from the neck with is probably like the lower back

neuromd2012 :

arthritis of the cervical spine. do you have pain into your arms?

neuromd2012 :

sure this is all pain management, steroid epidural injections into the cervical spine

Customer :

some, just aches.

well, I don't think you are telling me anything new.

neuromd2012 :

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/325733-overview

here is a webpage on this type of treatment

neuromd2012 :

no there is nothing new here. pretty standard stuff. you can also try physical therapy, swim therapy etc

neuromd2012 :

you can use medicines like celebrex or voltaren. If you have a bad stomach, Mobic or Arthrotec

Customer :

I am worried that all this new pain is from something else, like cancer

neuromd2012 :

well it is hard for me to tell you that without an exam. are you losing weight? that is the first sign

neuromd2012 :

cancer bone pain is somewhat different. It is more aching, and nauseating do you have that?

Customer :

actually I've gained 20 pounds because I quit smoking in Jan too

neuromd2012 :

well that is good congratulations!!!!

Customer :

I do feel nauseated for no reason at times

neuromd2012 :

do you have GERD? gastric reflux, did you try tums?

Customer :

no not that

neuromd2012 :

ok

neuromd2012 :

well if you have diffuse pain, and nausea, you should get it checked out. there are many tests available

you could start out with some common blood work, a CEA level, a mammogram, etc have you done all of that?

Customer :

had all that done in Jan and mamo just a few weeks ago

neuromd2012 :

since you were a smoker, did you get a chest xray in the last few years?

Customer :

yes not too long ago, maybe 4 years ago

neuromd2012 :

colonoscopy?

Customer :

yes,

Customer :

all heart tests

neuromd2012 :

so you are good to go

Customer :

circulation tests

neuromd2012 :

why are you so worried

Customer :

well , back and all the other little pains all over my body.

Customer :

maybe I'm being a hypocondriac

neuromd2012 :

are you depressed?

Customer :

by the way I had bacterial meningitis in 2002

Customer :

sometimes

neuromd2012 :

wow how did you get that

neuromd2012 :

community acquired?

Customer :

don't know, almost died tho

Customer :

yes

neuromd2012 :

that is different, very uncommon unless you are immunocompromized

Customer :

don't understand, was told I just caught it

neuromd2012 :

so you do not have rheumatoid arthritis correct?

neuromd2012 :

or fibromyalgia?

Customer :

no not that I've been told, no

neuromd2012 :

did they check a sedimentation rate on you? with your blood work?

Customer :

don't know what that is

Customer :

I am type 2 diabetic

neuromd2012 :

just a blood test, for inflammatory muscle diseases oh maybe that is why you have some pain

neuromd2012 :

do you have diabetic neuropathy? burning pain in your distal extremities. numbness?

Customer :

there was a test for inflamation, that may be it

neuromd2012 :

yes

Customer :

no, to neuropathy and numbness

neuromd2012 :

If you came into my office with this grouping of complaints, I would probably give you some samples of Cymbalta 30 mg caps to try for 2 weeks as a trial

neuromd2012 :

just to see how you did, if it helped as a diagnostic tool

neuromd2012 :

do you have any other questions that I could answer ?

Customer :

what would the cymbalta tell us

neuromd2012 :

well if you had arthritic pain, it would hopefully improve, I would also watch your mood, there are conditions like small fiber neuropathy related to diabetes that can give you diffuse pain and that might also improve

Customer :

ok thanks

neuromd2012 :

this might be a magical little capsule for you, once a day, at night empty stomach

neuromd2012 :

early side effects are nausea, but it passes

Customer :

thank you for your help

neuromd2012 :

you are welcome. I hope I could give you some direction

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