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On a non fuel injected ATV, is the petcock is left on prime,

 

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On a non fuel injected ATV, is the petcock is left on prime, should gas flood the oil case?

On repairing a gasoline flooded oil case, what are some things to consider?

 

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Year: 2000
Make: Suzuki
Model: Quadmaster
Engine: 500cc

Submitted: 344 days and 22 hours ago.
Category: Motorcycle
Value: $15
Status: CLOSED

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Brian :

Good day and welcome to Just Answer. My name is XXXXX XXX I'd be happy to help you with your problem today.

Brian :

That depends on if that is a vacuum operated fuel valve or not.

Brian :

You typically always want them off, but a vacuum operated valve only flows fuel when the engine is cranking or running.

Brian :

Prime is used to fill the carbs after a carb service & the carbs are dry.

Brian :

In cases of fuel over flow that is most often because of debris in the float needle or a stuck float.

Brian :

Other instances that allow for fuel over flow is gravity fuel valves that are left on, & vacuum fuel valves with a worn diaphragm.

Customer :

Petcock has 3 setting. on ..prime...reserve... was left on prime and flooded oil case

Brian :

When that diaphragm wears out fuel flows all the time. That will push beyond the float needle, wash out your engine & lead to oil contaminated with fuel

Brian :

In order to rectify that you need an oil & filter change.

Brian :

A carb service & typically a new fuel valve diaphragm.

Customer :

shop wants to new petcock and carb rebuild...can i get away with petcock only?

Brian :

you have a bad diaphragm or a debris stuck in the float needle.

Brian :

no.

Brian :

you also do not need a petcock, they are rebuildable, just but the diaphragm.

Brian :

You need the carb service for 2 reasons.

Brian :

to inspect the float needle to be sure that isn't also the issue

Customer :

this particular petcock is not rebuildable so shop says

Brian :

and to clean any crud brought through with all that extra fuel

Brian :

let me check on that real quick.... I think your parts guys is full of stuff.

Brian :

as far as I can tell they are completely rebuildable.

Brian :

since you have yours on your tank, check it out, it should have 2 or 3 pieces all stacked together like pancakes, there is the lever, & its mount, with sometimes what looks like the spacer, those are the air passages & then between that & that back there is your diaphragm...

Brian :

that is usually the problem.

Brian :

its looks like yours is only 2 pieces..

Brian :

remove the 4 screws to disassemble & rebuild.

Brian :

obviously since yours is in your hand you can see if that is possible or not.

Customer :

one second please

Brian :

it looks like you'll need to remove the lever/face to access the 4 screws that hold it together.

Brian :

Suzuki does not offer the diaphragm on their retail parts list but a dealer should easily be able to get you that.

Brian :

And that is why the parts guys likely said that.

Customer :

ok

Customer :

atv carbs are close to motorcycle carbs correct?

Brian :

same exact thing

Brian :

just usually a single carb

Customer :

yes

Customer :

shop wants 700 for carb clean, petcock, tune up and fluids

Customer :

trying to budget fix this

Brian :

yipes...

Brian :

what does the "tune up" include?...

Brian :

& are they talking all fluids?

Customer :

all fluids and fliters, plug

Brian :

no valve adjustment?..

Customer :

i was think that is stardard after carb clean

Brian :

a tune up basically is the carb service, new plugs, air filter service & valve adjustment...

Customer :

yeah

Brian :

fluids are a separate deal & parts are always extra.

Brian :

I think $700 is high but if you are dealing with a dealer that is $100/hr, well that is easy to get to $700. And that is just part of the cost of ownership.

Customer :

not dealer just shop

Brian :

If you are mechanically inclined, & have the Suzuki service manual, I can walk you through most of that.

Brian :

$700 seems excessive to me for an atv tune up & fluid service.

Brian :

A coolant flush included?...

Customer :

i do have both, but since it was a craiglist buy i wanted a professional look...it ran ok before i took it in...just wouldn't idle and was sitting for awhile

Customer :

then i flood oil case ...then really want professional look before disaster

Customer :

I will keep you in mind for a carb clean

Brian :

ok, then you should be in ok shape.

Brian :

I don't think the shop over estimated what needed done, but maybe went a little nuts on labor. I think you need most of that stuff done & if it was a cheap cl buy, you might want to throw $700 at it just for the peace of mind of getting it right to enjoy the season, then you keep it up from there on out.

Brian :

The service manual will walk you through everything but the carb rebuild.

Customer :

good deal

Customer :

thanks man

Brian :

Thank you, keep me posted of you need anything..

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