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My VZ800 Marauder was not charging. So I replaced the generator

 
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My VZ800 Marauder was not charging. So I replaced the generator coil. The Part is from ricks. This involves cutting the wires at the connector and pulling them through the gromit and then using the connector they provided replace it. (leaving the original Magnetic pickup) I did remove a black relay to make it easier to get to the connectors and reinstalled when finished Once together I started it. It did not start. What I have done so far: Checked resistance with the Magnetic pickup, 280 Ohms Checked for electricity going to the plugs, There is Made sure the tank is full Took back apart the generator cover and make sure with photos online that everything was where it was suppose to be. Any ideas?

 

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Year: 2003
Make: Suzuki
Model: Marauder
Engine: 800

Already Tried:
In the service manuel it says to not just measure the ohms of the Magnetic Pick up but to also look at peak voltage... They had a Special Service Tool to do this that I do not have... I did try to see if it hit 1.5 volts just with my DVOM but it didn't come close... Anyone think the part could be bad?

Submitted: 319 days and 15 hours ago.
Category: Motorcycle
Value: $59
Status: CLOSED

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Expert:  christopher replied319 days and 15 hours ago.


christopher :

Hello how are you

Customer :

I am good just a little frustrated.... Thought i would try this

christopher :

So the bike was running just not charging before all of this correct?

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Customer :

correct

christopher :

Does it have spark now?

Customer :

I have not pulled the plugs... But it does have electricity going to it.

Customer :

I pulled the wires

christopher :

I would check for the presence of spark at this point.

christopher :

I dont remember the exact readings but the pick up looks like its good

christopher :
Customer :

yeah... I have it in my minds eye that when I pulled it apart the pickup was backwards but the just does not make since

Customer :

I need to go buy another gasket before I go and test for spark

christopher :

Did you rip the old one

christopher :
Customer :

yeah... and the new one pulling it off and on so much.

Customer :

But that isn't an issue it was like 11 bucks for the gasket

christopher :

You can still put it back on for testing purposes

Customer :

I know just don't want to pull it off one more time lol...

So if I pull one of the plugs out and it has spark.... Then what?

christopher :

Then we know the issue is not the pick up or your wiring job, and we can move forward with the diagnosing process

Customer :

FYI there were times, after turning it over several times that it would make one attempt to start.
As if there was fuel in the combustion chamber and the spark ignited it

christopher :

Thats a good thing

christopher :

How long has the bike been sitting

Customer :

It happens only like on the beginning stroke but then just turns over....

Now it has been sitting for some time but the time period between doing the initial repair is like a day

christopher :

How long since it last ran

Customer :

Is the magnetic pickup like a crankshaft position sensor?

Ummm last week

christopher :

It function is to tell the coil when to spark. The sensor is not adjustable so at this point i do not believe the timing is off

Customer :

I turned it over so much I used a car battery...

With stopping in between in order to give the starter a break.... But my battery was not handling it

Customer :

Ok so it is.

christopher :

Yes depending on the application we are talking about

christopher :

Lets confirm you do have spark and that it is bright blue in color

Customer :

ok... how do I exit and come back w/o paying?
Do I click on the save & Exit link below?

christopher :

You can rate my answer and come back with follow up questions. I will work with you until we get you back up and running again

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Customer :

ok...

christopher :

Keep me posted

Customer :

How do I get back? They didn't give me any screen name or password.

christopher :

You should find a link back to this question in your email. Just in case here is a link

http://www.justanswer.com/motorcycle/6v8e1-vz800-marauder-not-charging-so-replaced-generator.html

Customer :

ok I got it...

christopher :

Good luck

Customer :

Thanks talk to you later

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Customer replied305 days and 11 hours ago.

I checked the spark and it is nice and blue...
I replaced the plugs in since they were out...

Still didn't start

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Expert:  christopher replied305 days and 6 hours ago.

Were the plugs fouled?

Customer replied304 days and 19 hours ago.

yes they were fouled. In need of replacement

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Expert:  christopher replied304 days and 19 hours ago.

Ok you will need to check for spark with a new set of plugs, if the plugs are fouled they will not spark.

Customer replied304 days and 18 hours ago.

I replaced the plugs and checked it

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Expert:  christopher replied304 days and 18 hours ago.

Ok so now we have spark but the engine will not start. As i mentioned before the timing is not adjustable so we can rule that out. On the bottom of the carbs you will find a drain screw, crack these screws loose, this will tell us if they are getting as well as drain out any that may have gone bad during the repair process.

Customer replied304 days and 18 hours ago.

Ok... I will...
It will take awhile because they are buried and both carbs are on opposing sides of the engine.

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Expert:  christopher replied304 days and 18 hours ago.

I know its a pain, might be a good idea to catch the gas that drains out just to see what was in there.

Customer replied304 days and 18 hours ago.

How much do you want me to drain out?

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Expert:  christopher replied304 days and 17 hours ago.

All of it



Customer replied304 days and 17 hours ago.

I don't know if you forgot or not we put fresh gas in it not too long ago... I am thinking right before I signed on using this....

From Shell...

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Expert:  christopher replied304 days and 16 hours ago.

The fresh gas is in the tank, if the bike has not run, and the carbs were not drained, the fuel in the bowls is not fresh.

Customer replied304 days and 15 hours ago.

How much fuel in the bowls?... I have a full tank.

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Expert:  christopher replied304 days and 15 hours ago.

Turn the petcock to the off position and drain only whats in the bowls. The bowls hold about 1/2 cup of fuel or less

Customer replied304 days and 15 hours ago.

ok... I will do that...

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Expert:  christopher replied304 days and 15 hours ago.

Try to catch what comes out in a clean container

Customer replied304 days and 15 hours ago.

ok

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Expert:  christopher replied304 days and 15 hours ago.

Keep me posted

 
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