ok ,,1988 honda goldwing,, new battery, all wiring looks good have had body off and checked conections,no after market exceries,, alt show 14.7 volts at idle when high beam on,, battery goesdead when riding
replaced battery,checked all conections removed body,,tested alt.
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First question, I see that it shows you've tested the alternator. What procedure did you use to do this?
just at an idle it showed 14.7 volts with tghe high beam on,,
as it showed in the manual. i guess i should say,, missed you and just got home from work.. really i've spent a lot of years on bikes this has me completely baffled..its a trike but have pulled all of the fuses while the bike was running one at a time just to see if that made any difference to anything,, it didn't.. i can tell while riding, when the reserve tank wont pump fuel i have to change to the main tank, it gets me another half hour and then thats it,, the starter sel. does make more noise than it should and one is on order but... i have my doubts,, the other odd quirk is that the radio, quit working on fm and only recieves on am,, cant see how it could be related but,, hope this helps
Ok I want you to do this....check the voltage at approximately 2500 rpms with high beam on and let me know what you see.
mistake at idle was 14.1 at 2500 is 14.7 there is no draw when the bike is shut off
leave me another thought ,, have followed the manual a couple times,, lol not an easy..going to gym,, but will check back,, any help and or thoughts i can try will be compensated make no doubt.. did i mention the neutral light also has quit?? cant be related but at this point i just give all the info i can have faith
thanks so far Terry
hey tonight i think i got it!!!! it,, and feel like a fool,,,, i rode about an hour with the amp meter on never fell be low 13.25 and that was with everything on,fans,highbeam, radio, and driving lights,,,tried to start nope wouldnt crank over,, BUT still show 12 volts.,, like i said feel foolish,, i now believe it is the starter,,make sence to you?? say yes and your paid,,lol i'll pay you anyway.. another question i also changed spark plugs,, the left bank looked fouled all 3,, the right side looked normal maybe a little rich but not bad..and was unable to get over 4250 rpm in 4th,, seemed to be runningout of gas,, got an idea??? carbs were just done a wee while agot maybe not set right or could it more possibly be that right bank??
ok give me your thoughts on that,,
please,,by the way you just got paid!!! since i know you'll repy please say it has to be the starter,,please,,lol tell me what you think
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Have you checked to make sure you are getting power through the solenoid? Since we know it isn't a charging system issue as the voltage indicates that's all working properly, the battery is good with voltage, so the starter solenoid is next in line. Make sure you are getting power out of it to the starter. If you are, the starter is next in line. You can tap on the starter with the handle of a screwdriver and see if it cranks after that. Yes sounds nuts but if it is the starter, it will loosen up the brushes and cause them to move more freely so that we can determine if it is the starter.....it will either start or you'll be able to tell it is trying really hard to start.Regarding the other issue, when the carbs were done, do you know what procedure was used? Sometimes people just do carb cleaner and compressed air which doesn't get everything in the jets. A piece of fine wire (just smaller than the jet) is needed to run through the jets to make sure they are good and clean. It sounds like there is something still in a jet clogging it up. Ethanol in the fuel now makes fuel go bad very quickly and causes lots of problems. See the attachment to give detailed instructions for cleaning the carburetors.
yes as nuts as it seems,,lol, taped a few starters,, in the soleniod case i crossed the posts , the carbs no they were removed and and cleaned, change the timing belts at the same time,, replaced one major body part from a previous owners careless removal,, thats why the starting/batttery dead issue really had me piss--..
thanks for your thoughts
by the way 25 years in the trade your pic,, must have been from a while ago,lol
thank goodness it doesnt start til the 6th,, rember when we were here?? guess what? i tried it from our last email,, does the same thing still,, but now we know it is not the starter or selonid or battery as they have been replaced.. the battery doent lose power but something else gets hot or?? and the bike wont crank over,,leave it sit 30 min. and it goes just like it should,, you want me go thru just ask or?? got pay pal account of your own? lol just me review above and lets go again,,rembering the EX'S curse
Oh wow....didn't even realize that I snagged same bike different issue or even connect these two questions. You wouldn't believe how many people have older Goldwings that bike shops won't repair anymore so they ask the questions on here. Let me read over all this in the morning and we'll go from here. Oh and btw....25 years in the trade just means I look young (good genes) and I started young :-)
ya lucky you lol,,same bike..not the same here the shops do work on them but their all about a month behind on things, and i dont mind getting into things,biked for 38 yrs. lol but electrical and i never hit it off..
i can leave it sit say an hour and it will start right up,, shut it off and repeatedly start and stop it,,
which i had your genes,:-)!
Ok so I reread everything. So question.....how long does it take to go dead while riding and is it only when riding or will it do it while running and just sitting there? Also, does the battery actually lose voltage (you said battery goes dead while riding) or does it just lose power or does it seem like it's losing fuel? Let's do one thing.....we need to see if it's losing spark, fuel, or power when it goes dead. Can you check for spark for me when it goes dead and won't crank back and see if it has spark?
,actually battery doesnt go dead,, it just wont turn over(even manually connecting both selonid connections),at beginning,,starts right up as all hondas do,ride for 10 min. shut it off and thats where the problem lies, it wont turn over,battery still has lots of juice(lights and all else)leaver it sit an hour and away it goes,,did shut off and restarted several times just to make sure the battery didnt just regain a bit of charge, but drive 10 min. and no go,, not seizing or anything as give it a push and up and running( but trikes dont push all that easy),
After 10 minutes of riding and you shut it off, when you hit the starter, what happens? Does it try to turn over? Any sounds? Dimming lights? etc