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Back again how ya doin,anyway this time im working on a 1998

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back again doug how ya doin,anyway this time im working on a 1998 mitsu ecliopse gs spyder.i put a used engine in it as the shop im took it to screwed up on a timing blet job.i replaced the engine with a duplicate 2.4 sohc replaced the timingbelts and have reinstalled it.i marked everthing aand took pictures and everything back where it came from .wiring,vac hoses and what not..my problem is it wont start,i checed the cam and crank sensors for pwr,grd ,and signal all seems good.i was told it could be the security system because the battery was off so long.i try putting on the security inside the car with the button outside car with key no security light,i got the se3curirity lght on one time fiddeling with the locks and i tryed starting it and it almost started but died.tryed again and eventually battery got week. checked all grounds ,good ,fuel presure is at the rail a pump is working..i checked plugs aftre that timg it almost started and the 2 and 4 plug fired but 1 and three were still brand new .
Submitted: 5 months ago.
Category: Mitsubishi
Expert:  Doug replied 5 months ago.

Hi,

You specifically mentioned the "2 and 4" plugs and the "1 and 3" plugs. Are you sure you don't have your wires on incorrectly? The wires should be paired to the coils as 1 and 4 and 2 and 3.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
there on that way and bracket has them labled and are on the plugs 1 being by the pullys 2,3,4going toward the passenger side of car is there a way to set the iniatial timing to 5 degrees,can you adjust the timing with the cam shaft angle by turning it.is there a way to reprogram the security .i was told that would keep it from firing,battery was off quite a while.
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
i some how got the green security light to work and come on i then tryed to crank it over and it started but died.i then tryed again but battery was to low,i then put a diffrent battery in and it is justcranking but no fire,i also got the brake light ,check engine light ,battery light staying on.is there a way to get the trouble codes from off the dash lights
Expert:  Doug replied 4 months ago.

Hmm. I'm a bit concerned about the two non-paired plugs not showing signs of firing more than anything, as since the coil is the only shared component between cylinders if they aren't paired incorrectly that would indicate two different issues going on potentially.

The security system on this model will not stop the engine from running. All it can do is stop the starter from working, I assure you 110% unless you have an aftermarket alarm on there, there isn't any way the security system is affecting your ability to start up. It can only interrupt starter operation on the pre-2000 vehicles.

I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding the green security light on this model... it is a 1998?

Customer: replied 4 months ago.
is there a way to adjust the timing,,can the cas have something to do with it and is it adjustable.i dont seem to have spark and no fuel at the plug..,do have fuel at the fuel presure regulatorand fuel rail.how do i test the coil packs,mfi relay and injectors,
Expert:  Doug replied 4 months ago.

The timing is fixed.... even if you could manipulate it, you would be working against the computer as it adjusts the actual timing on the fly based off the fixed timing... essentially you would be trying to over compensate for a problem and the computer would try to correct the over compensation.

Are none of the injectors firing or just two firing? Lets not go all over the place and deal with one situation at a time.... you said there is no fuel at the plug, and since that alone will prevent running there is no reason to go testing coils etc yet. The injectors.... all four are dead or are some firing and not others?

Customer: replied 4 months ago.
all4 no fuel,have fuel at fuel rail and regulator.i also have no spark on all four,had coil tested both good.new fuel filter,pump is working.
Expert:  Doug replied 4 months ago.

Thanks. Your comment about two plugs looking like they had run and two did not, as well as saying it sounded like it was going to start gave the implication that you had at least spark and partial fueling. That changes things dramatically if you have neither spark nor fuel.

Please verify the Service Engine light is still doing a bulb test at key-on. If it is not, please use a scan tool or code reader to see if there is any communication with the computer (you can check codes too while there, but mostly we want to see if the computer is waking up for communication or not).

If you do have communication, of course check for codes first. Then unplug your crank sensor and verify you have one 12V and one 5v wire. If you do, plug it back in and back-probe the 5V wire then rotate the engine clockwise by hand and tell me what the behavior is of the voltage on that line.