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Mitsubishi Eclipse GS: I have a 1999 eclipse non turbo. Lights

 
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I have a 1999 eclipse non turbo. Lights on my dash would flash and the car would stall out but take off again. it would repeatedly do this but only when I was driving down my lane. It would run fine any where else. The last time I was driving down my lane it stalled out and would not start again. There is tall grass growing down the center of my lane so I looked under the car and foun the oxygen sensor wires hanging freely. they were completely diconnected form the sensor. i assumed that this was the problem and the wires must have been shorting out causing the problem. I replaced the sensor and car still has no spark and the plugs are dry, won't start. I checked all the fuses they were good. also there are three plug in connectors on the firewall, driver side engine compartment, the center one was making a clicking noise. Is there a fuse somewhere or any ideas what the problem is?

 

Country: United States
Make: Mitsubishi
Model: Eclipse GS
Year: 1999
Engine: 2.0 non turbo

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Submitted: 298 days and 3 hours ago.
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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days and 3 hours ago.


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So you have no spark and no injector pulse while cranking correct?

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Ok, it looks like you stepped offline, so just reply here when you can and please confirm the questions I have.

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days and 2 hours ago.

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days and 2 hours ago.

Hey Dan, I switched out of chat for you, I hear you were having problems viewing the correspondence.

 

Simply reply to this page so we can continue.

 

It's safe to say the ASD relay (the one you hear clicking) is working, since you can hear it.

 

So once you confirm that both spark and injector pulse are absent, you can let me know if you have a voltmeter, so we can do some testing.

Customer replied298 days and 2 hours ago.

I am back. yes I have a voltmeter

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days and 2 hours ago.

Ok, on the middle wire on the coil pack, verify that when you turn the key to the "on" position you get power for 2 seconds.

 

 

Customer replied298 days and 2 hours ago.

yes showed between 11 and 12 volts for a second or two

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days and 2 hours ago.

ok good.

 

Next thing your going to need to check is the crank sensor output/input signals with your meter.

 

Pin 1 on the crank sensor should get about 9V on the yellow wire.

pin 2 black/gr is a ground

pin 3 is the important one. With the engine cranking you should get an oscillating 0v to 5v reference signal. If you get a solid 5v signal or no signal at all the sensor has failed. If the ECM does not get the proper crank reference sensor it releases ground to the ASD relay and you have no power to the injectors or the coil when cranking.

 

Check this and let me know. If you don't have a helper you will have to test at the ECM for these signals and not the sensor itself since to access the crank sensor you really need to be under the car.

 

Let me know and reply here.

Customer replied298 days and 1 hours ago.

i do not have a helper. what is the EMC and where is it?

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days and 1 hours ago.

ECM is the engine control module.

 

If testing at the ECM make sure you go by wire colors as the pinouts changed EVERY YEAR on these cars.

 

The yellow wire being the 9v power source to the sensor with the key to "on"

 

The blue/white stripe wire being the reference signal wire from the sensor to the computer.

 

 

Customer replied298 days and 1 hours ago.

where is this ecm located

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days and 1 hours ago.

lol, sorry I typed ECM its ECU or PCM they get different names on these cars depending on auto or manual transmission.

 

Regardless, it's in the engine compartment. If your looking at the fuse box it's right above it. It's black has two large connectors running into it.

Customer replied298 days and 1 hours ago.

Those wires are not in the top connector. the bottom connector is going to be a challenge to get to the wires. I might have to unbolt the module to get to them. where is the crank position sensor? would it be easier to get to? i could round up some help.

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days ago.

If you crawl under the vehicle and your facing the back of the block. It's on the bottom left hand side of the engine block.

 

Easy to access from underneath.

Customer replied298 days ago.

sorry but before i wiggle my way underneath there i want to make sure of the location. since the engine is sitting in there sideways i am not sure what you mean by the back of the block. If i slide under the car from the front on my back where would i look for this sensor?

Customer replied298 days ago.

,sorry but before i wiggle my way underneath there i want to make sure of the location.  since the engine is sitting in there sideways i am not sure what you mean by the back of the block.  If i slide under the car from the front on my back where would i look for this sensor?

Customer replied298 days ago.

sorry but before i wiggle underneath the car i want to clarify the location of the sensor. since the engine is in there sideways i am not sure what you mean by the back of the engine. If I slide under the car from the front on my back head first where would the sensor be located?

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days ago.

Roll straight back underneath the engine with your head right where the drivers seat firewall is.

 

Look towards the front of the vehicle and locate the crank sensor on the lower left of the engine block. Wire colors can verify you found the right sensor.

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied298 days ago.

do it this way.

 

If your looking at the timing belt cover. Go around the engine, between the engine block towards the firewall. Make sense?

 

your on the opposite end of the block as the transmission.

 

Should be located above the oil filter.

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This should help you.

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Expert:  DSMtuner replied294 days and 7 hours ago.

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