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Mercedes-Benz 450SL 1975 Mercedes 450 SL looking for a vacuum

 
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1975 Mercedes 450 SL looking for a vacuum routing diagram for the 3 electric vacuum solenoids and the one vacuum distributor that are in a cluster on the passenger front fender.

Can anyone help?

 

Country: United States
Make: Mercedes-Benz
Model: 450SL
Year: 1975

Submitted: 572 days and 15 hours ago.
Category: Mercedes
Value: $25
Status: CLOSED
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Expert:  eurotec replied 572 days and 14 hours ago.

Hi, click on the image below for the vacuum diagram of the system.

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Customer replied 572 days and 14 hours ago.

That is fantastic. I have been searching for hours and I have two manuals which are mum on the subject. The only question I have is with the "vacuum control switch" - mine has 4 lines as opposed to the three in the diagram. I did forget to mention that this is a California vehicle. Not sure if that makes a difference.

Tom

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Expert:  eurotec replied 572 days and 13 hours ago.

Hi Tom, I only show the three lines. I'd work through the diagram and see where the 4th line falls. Let me know if you run into trouble.

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Customer replied 572 days and 13 hours ago.

Will do - thank you so much.

Tom

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Expert:  eurotec replied 572 days and 13 hours ago.

Hi Tom, I found some more info. It provides a little more detail for you. Click on the link.

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Customer replied 572 days and 10 hours ago.

Thank you again. I appreciate it.

Tom

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Expert:  eurotec replied 572 days and 5 hours ago.

You're welcome

Customer replied 571 days and 20 hours ago.

Hi,

Thanks to your great diagrams, I have the vacuum lines all sorted out. Here is my problem now. I get no vacuum advance to the distributor from the red solenoid, # XXXXX on your last diagram. I do get vacuum if I disconnect the power plug from the solenoid, so it must be a normally open unless energized. Since all the power plugs run parallel, all the solenoids must get energized at the same time.

I did test the retard solenoid, but since the engine was already warmed up, I am not sure if I should have seen vacuum or not - I did not.

All the source vacuum is connected to the center ports of the solenoids.

Thank you
Tom

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Expert:  eurotec replied 571 days and 20 hours ago.

Hi Tom, go to page 6 in the second set of instructions I gave you and check the temperature switch at the back of the intake manifold. It opens over 40°C and turns off the solenoid to give you EGR and vacuum advance.

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Customer replied 571 days and 19 hours ago.

Got it. I guess the 3 vacuum solenoids are not all activated at the same time, just looks like it from the parallel connectors.

 
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