I believe I can help you with your concern tonight
Please give me a couple minutes to read over your question carefully
I would like to ask you a few questions to get some more information, so that I can better assist you
Does your boyfriend have any issues with low self-esteem at all?
He'll claim that he doesn't but I believe that he does, mostly because he's not where he wants to be in life
And where does he want to be in life or where does he think he should be in life?
Making more than enough money to live comfortably, have his own house and his own car with me
Does he ever exaggerate his own achievements and does he ever expect praise for his achievements?
no and yes.
Does he believe that he is better than others?
Thats my personal belief by the way he "gives advice" he personally told me that he feels like he has to think for other people and I told him that that is demeaning and then he told me I was being judgmental, but he says that he doesnt think he is and that he respects everyones thoughts and opinions he just gives them better options
which is bull.
And I think I know the answer to this question, but I want to make sure. Do you feel that his jealousy is a way to control you sometimes?
In a strange way yes.
my mom and friends see it too
I am afraid to say it, but I feel that he has a personality disorder called Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), where individuals have fragile ego (self-esteem), feel they are better than others, control others, extremely jealous, can be very passive aggressive in many ways (but direct aggression is also possible), take advantage of others, and fail to recognize others' emotions. Here is a more detailed link about it
This is a persistent disorder that many individuals develop and it is very resistant to most treatments currently. The best treatment for it is called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and even that does work most of the time. Unfortunately your boyfriend may get worse as time goes on and as he tries exhibit more control over you
Also him blaming you all the time is a very classic symptom of NPD as they fail to take responsibility for their actions.
I would also like to recommend these books about NPD as well to give you some insight on this disorder
Do you have any questions or concerns so far?
I have plenty.
Okay sigh. geese man.
I know I just presented a lot of information for you, so take your time and please feel free to ask any questions that you have when you are ready
Like I said I am a senior in college, and I dont have time to sacrifice like this :( on him, and I almost feel like going to counseling tomorrow is going to be a lost cause because even when we talk he never fully understands what Im saying or think its correct. He'll say its unfair, you can do this and I cant do that. Thats not fair. He also thinks no one understands him. and i feel like its not that we don't understand him I think that he's in denial and doesnt understand whats going on with himself.
Individuals with NPD have a difficult time responding well to therapy because it is exactly as you put it, they feel that everyone else is wrong, and they are right. So your boyfriend will put a lot of the blame on you as they fail to take responsibility for their actions.
While I applaud you going to therapy, I do not think it will change him. But the therapist can reinforce what I have been saying
and even then like he does like help me out sometimes and he drove me around while I was injured and clothed me and stuff, but one thing that is annoying is that he has like a "fatherly" tone with his help like i'm a child, like when he offers the help its nice but when I get it is also nice to a certain extent it has underlying auras that it gives me
and this just kinda made my heart drop :(
Well individuals with NPD can manipulate very well an act empathetic to gain your trust. Also the fatherly tone and treating you like a child sounds like an element of control as well
The symptoms are really characteristic of this disorder, which I know is not exactly what you want to hear, but I wanted to tell you the truth about this
I wish I could show you the conversation we had earlier so I can give you a real example so that I make sure im not switching the story up
And you cannot copy and paste it?
Well if you like you can also type out parts of the conversation for me, there is no time limit here as I am happy to take as much time with you to help you with this issue.
hold on he just sent me a 6 page text message
Wow that is a long text message
Take your time
its more like 20 pages sighhhhh and it has a weird mix of positive and egative stuff and its just confusing
but i wil try to piece it together and send it to you.
No problem, like I said there is no time limit here so take as much time as you like
Okay, its acting weird. and I really wish I could just send this stuff to you because its confusing me.
I am sorry if the chat is not working well for you
yea I cant upload the documents
You can copy and paste what you wrote in the document directly in the chat box if you like
Okay I am reading it now
Who is the gray and who is the green just so I am clear?
He's grey and Im green
Thats what I thought, I just wanted to make sure give me a couple minutes to read this carefully
The disconnect displayed in the first set of messages was disconcerting. Like i dont see how he cant see that he took my joke as a general statement and responded to it like it was a general statement
this is the initial discussion form earlier
I agree it is disconcerting, but this does point to NPD a lot
heres the next ones
Sure go for it
The way I recieved them are out of order but you can get the weird gist of what he's saying
I understand, I can sort it out well on my end
this is his angry reply
and this is some of the stuff he sent like 5 minutes ago
So he is definitely showing mood swings with the anger and then positive texts, but the positive texts could be a form of trying to charm you
The only other possibility for some of this behavior would be a mix of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) traits as well, but I do not think that is the case her
im so confused and quite frankly its scaring me. he clearly just told me to not text him. then he texts me literally like 15 text messages of that stuff, like if the truth is told in counseling session then it should go great, and that WE need to find different ways to express our selves and WE this and WE that he kept saying US like we both have the issue, and that he jus wants us to be good and to stop being so negative towards each other and how he sits home depressed about how we are negative towards each other, in none of these cases have i been negative. UNTIL he responds with ignorance. but I have never actually DONE anything BAD to him.
I think he's somewhere between them both. Personality disorde and NPD
I know, he is putting a lot of the blame on you for these issues which leads me to believe NPD. But the way these texts showed moods swings of anger and then depressed/apologetic leads me to see either manipulation or possible BPD.
I agree I think he shares traits of both disorders which is very possible and will make your time with him very difficult.
Borderline Personality Disorder
Not Bipolar Disorder
Many personality disorders (around 30-35 percent of the time) co-exist with each other
Counseling is a good start, but I feel that your boyfriend may need specialist therapy sessions to help with his issues.
He doesnst have healthcare and Im using my college counseling for this.
Some college counseling can specialize in Dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT) which is good for treating Borderline Personality Disorder traits.
I can also recommend some good treatment books too
I think the second book you will like a lot as the title is "Stop Walking on Eggshells" which I feel you have been doing
I actually dont I let him know I feel he's being irrational which is why he thinks I'm being judgemental
Well hopefully counseling can help him better understand that his actions are irrational, but I am not optimistic that he will respond well to therapy based on the statistics of treating NPD and from my own personal experience treating this disorder
The only thing that im actually hesitant on is the fact that me leaving him is a high possibility because I have to focus on school i cant deal with that not right now oh yea he's also a perfectionist
The perfectionist is definitely more towards NPD and just reinforces my earlier diagnosis and this is why I think when he sends these positive messages it is to manipulate. I am not going to tell you what to do, but I will say that he most likely will not respond well to the treatment or change, so breaking up with him may be the only way to escape this level of stress
Sigh. I dont want this man to like go off and try to kill himself or something. Like... he thinks Im the only woman to ever really love him n idk. i feel kinda bad now
I do not think he will kill himself, rarely do individuals with NPD commit suicide, but he may self-harm.
I understand that you do not want this man to hurt himself, but also you have to think about your well being too and staying with him to prevent him from possibly hurting himself is not a good reason to stay in the relationship
you are right.
Well, whats your final conclusion?
You will be able to do this and break it off with this man and you will be able to live your life happy like you deserve. If you do choose to break it off with him, this book details exactly what to prepare for when you do breakup with him
My final conclusion is that this man has NPD and most likely will not respond well to therapy. It may bring short term results, but not for the long-term. I think because this behavior of his will continue, breaking it off may be your best option
Do you have any other questions or concerns?
not really, thanks a lot for the help tho
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